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welcome to the skinwalker debrief I'm

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your host TJ Allard and I'm also one of

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the executive producers on the new

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television series on history called the

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secret of skinwalker ranch

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I'm joined each week by Jason McCullen

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and Maureen Elsberry and together we'll

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dissect each episode and give you a

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little bit more insight and background

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into the show Jason's been exploring all

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things strange for more than a decade

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he's appeared on Nat Geo sci-fi and

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history and he's the author of only

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weirdos see UFOs an introduction to the

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public misperception of unidentified

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aerial phenomenon and extraterrestrial

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life marine is a journalist researcher

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and podcaster specializing in the

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anomalous she starred in the docu-series

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uncovering aliens on Animal Planet and

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served as an ambassador for the science

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channels are we alone initiative and

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tonight our special guest is none other

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than Bryant dragon Arnold head of

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security at skinwalker ranch all right

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thank you for joining us or should we

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call you dragon which is it you can call

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me whatever you'd like

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much worse than either of those things

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all right I'm sure a lot of people want

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to know can you tell us how you got the

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nickname dragon well it's an interesting

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story you know it's not a stepbrothers

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type thing where I introduce myself my

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name is Bryant that called me dragon you

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know that type of a thing it actually

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came from someone that has quite an

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online presence and I've been

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enthusiastic arrange for a long time and

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when Brandon took over ownership he

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actually got permission to actually be

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on the ranch without dress passing and

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came on and you know I greeted him at

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the gate and he went on his way and

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apparently from what I understand there

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was a former security guard under the

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Bigelow era that some some former

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military guy that had code name dragon

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and so

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as he was cruising down the road of the

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ranch he said you know that dragon and I

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guess whoever was with just affirmed it

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so he went on his online presence and

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said yeah you know that dragon guy kind

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of a jerk and he was kind of you know

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standoffish and everything well I mean

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it's not I kind of have the resting

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[\h__\h] thing going on most of the

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time so anyway he started you know he

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talked about it and then other people

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chimed in

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you know online and started telling

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stories about how they'd been run off

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the property by me wielding guns and

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things like that and so Brandon loving

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that whole narrative started calling me

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dragon and referred to me as that too

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many people and including you know the

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people that ended up producing the

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television show I mean I know that's how

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each a was introduced to me was and and

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it's funny because it's like I am who

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are you talking about I guess so anyway

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he loved it started calling me that and

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it's stuck and you know and then during

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production Travis I mean let's be honest

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Bryant Arnold doesn't really roll off

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the tongue like dragon does so you know

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I wish there was a much cooler badass

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story but that's pretty much how it came

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to be and it's just stuck and so that's

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what we are I think it's a good

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reflection to say that like you didn't

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make it up yourself and I think that's

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what so many people call me dragon you

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know yeah oh I know I've seen I took a I

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took a real beating after the first

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episode and I'm like look I didn't give

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myself a nickname right it just

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organically happened and that's where

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we're at so we'll go with it hey it

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works man it works I think I said I

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think you know this is something you

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just heck with it make t-shirts and sell

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them

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dragon done get some sort of treasure

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pile a but of mysterious things that

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then have some sort of dragon t-shirt it

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would be oh my god like hoarding like

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circling out like Smaug

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alien spools underneath you and no

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military gear you're all hired to get my

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swag for the next day so bright where

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are you right now I am in the command

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center coming live from skinwalker ranch

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so yep took a little bit of a break from

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chasing people off and we've had a lot

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of people ever since the show's aired

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that are very curious and you know it's

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kind of a blessing and a curse at the

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same time but yeah I was excited you

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know I appreciate our friendship BJ and

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so you know I was more than happy to

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join them and talk about stuff like this

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and and I've enjoyed the first two

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episodes I've you know I've watched both

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of your podcast I mean both your weld

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the youtube version of it of the first

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two and they seem like solid folks and

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so they are nice they definitely are of

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course um no it's it's really appreciate

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you know you're joining us I know that

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you know maybe Jason amore don't know of

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course I do know I think this is great

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you know I think we'd love that you know

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just let's keep this going let's let's

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hope this just continues and we just

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keep bringing you on you know whenever

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we can and you know that's it's awesome

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I just so let's do this so what we did

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last weekend what we'll do

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again I think kind of recapping what

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what happened at the end of week two so

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for those who don't know when I say week

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two I mean the television show on

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history the secret of seeing Walker

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ranch so last week's episode week two is

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called night vision and so what we'll do

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is every week we kind of go and recap

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what had happened in the previous week

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and so a couple of you know big points

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that I picked out of last week's recap

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would be like so the glow in the Flickr

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so I mean those things are kind of

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amazing to me and I don't know what you

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guys think I'd love to hear some some

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thoughts and opinions on what what you

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guys think that stuff is and I know we

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can get insight from Brian as well so

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you guys think maybe some thoughts I'm

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still stuck on a lot of the geology

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stuff so until we get to the root of

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but my mind is kind of stuck in that

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kind of route there's got to be some

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sort of natural geological explanation

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for what is causing different sorts of

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anomalies I mean it's a little different

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when you have like a full beam of light

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coming down but yeah so I'm still like

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let's let's dig into that geology but

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Jason what do you what do you think yeah

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same as last week I mean it's it's some

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weird stuff and yeah we have some other

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potential avenues to explore with

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geology like Maureen said but when it

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comes down to it a lot of the stuff is

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just plainly weird as [\h__\h]

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dragon can you give us any insight into

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the weird as [\h__\h] aspect of things I

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agree I mean nice you have amongst our

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scientists you know three PhDs and bunch

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of stuff and they're kind of saying you

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know the same type of thing what are you

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doing that you know if I go when I quote

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Travis by going to a southern accent I

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can't help it because understandable

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with it but yeah it's I I think it's a

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combination of things I think that you

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know why do you into Basin of all places

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I mean because it's not just skinwalker

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it's got the nickname of UFO Ali really

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because of so many different occurrences

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and things like that and it is just that

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it's a basin I mean if you look at it

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areally it almost looks like a big

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satellite dish mm-hmm and so I know that

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there are some minerals and elements

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here that are found really only here and

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then very other few places on earth like

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to get too technical I've listened to

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scientists way too much but there's an

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element called asphalt ium which is what

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is used for all of your asphalt pavement

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roads and things like that and this

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Frank and it's you know one of those

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things where I don't know if it has

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something to do with that along with you

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the base in using itself almost like a

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lens or something focusing energy or

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whatever it may be I don't know exactly

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you know it's stuff that we've we've

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speculated on but uh you know I don't

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think that Maureen is off either that I

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think a lot of I think a lot of elements

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have had to come together and I would

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say that probably the geology has a big

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part in that

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absolutely I think Maureen hit it last

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week she touched on that right marine

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you mentioned about the whole basin not

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just the ranch great and I think that's

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so important to acknowledge and tell

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people because the stuffs been going on

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around that area for a long time and

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it's not centered to like some random

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pics and fences that were put up in a

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certain area and then deemed a ranch you

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know it's it's something bigger than

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that so it's always good to point that

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out in my opinion well and you know

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possibly an explanation is if you look

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at the basin and where the ranch sits it

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almost sits dead center of the Uintah

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Basin it's you know so who knows maybe

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that's why this particular piece of

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property seems to be you know a focal

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point but I think it's also because it

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has been owned privately and studied so

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there there could be all this stuff

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happening all over the place but it

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doesn't get the notoriety that they're

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in so yeah I mean I think that you you

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preservation areas surrounding it a lot

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of it so why they're much more you know

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private and believe about their own

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culture and studies and and it's amazing

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but they're not gonna be pulling a ton

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of scientific equipment onto their

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property because that's not you know

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native ways so know right I mean I don't

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want to get too far away from the

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previous episodes but I'm actually I was

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just thinking of it and Dragon you know

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you brought it up don't dragon see how

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even stuck calling dragon I'm so used to

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it over though it's ours not used to it

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right um so I wanted you know we were

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talking about this and something that

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you could shed some light on I didn't

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want to you know you talked in detail

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about it before but the case

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can you tell us about the case and the

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night no that's not that's not be kicks

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raise a black Pelican case I know the

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dates and loves Pelican cases yeah so

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that really is that was kind of the

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question you know obviously the first

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episode left everyone wondering what was

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in the case and what they opened it up

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and it was some people wah wah a magnet

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right the fact of the matter is that

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Pelican case has nothing to do as far as

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like you know a dramatic reveal I mean

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it turned out that way on the TV show

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but that magnet that's in there that

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neodymium magnet or rare earth magnet

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for people that you know don't know the

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technical term it is extremely dangerous

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and powerful I was talking to Eric bard

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our principal investigator about it and

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I and I mentioned to him that was one of

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the big questions and he actually if we

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caught C's Eric he said let me put it

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this way that thing is dangerous if you

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attach that to a piece of iron the force

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it takes to remove that is over 1,700

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pounds of pulling force and the thing is

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is we have to so you saw in the episode

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when he kind of gave the demonstration

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with the phone and things like that yes

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that one in that aluminum jig so that he

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could you know manipulate it correctly

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and like that

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if those two magnets came together first

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off if anyone's body parts was in

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between that it would absolutely

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pulverize them and if they stuck

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together you'd never get them apart ever

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so like for example I mean if I wanted

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to play a really bad prank on you and

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stuck it to your car you'd never get it

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off

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and so yeah I won't so we're safe there

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but I'm just saying ultimately at the

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end of the day the reason it is in that

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case with all that insulation is because

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it is dangerous I can take my car keys

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and hold it over the top of the case and

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it'll suck my hand down onto the even

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the key in my case so it's strictly a

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safety thing plus we have so much

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electronic equip

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around here and you know what batteries

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do - we like Tommy right so yeah I mean

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at the end of the day Eric told me is

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like if I would add a bigger case I

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would have had it in that that's how he

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would have answered - I think you just

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maybe but but anyway yeah so I mean

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really I know that a lot of people were

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like you have this it's it's a magnet

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for heaven's sake but no it is an

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extremely extremely powerful magnet you

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could pick up a refrigerator with it was

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attached to something so really it was a

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safety protocol more than anything and

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you know that kind of I guess hopefully

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answers the whole pelican oh definitely

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I think that's gonna answer a lot of

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questions that were out there I mean I

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feel like that was a pretty pretty good

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answer yeah I mean I never I had you

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know I didn't wanna throw it out there

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but it's like I think that a lot of

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people didn't think of that as a

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potential thing so thank you for

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cleaning it up I appreciate that so you

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know we magnet now we got besides the

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flicker and glow we talked about

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potentially you know geological that

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damn beam the beam that you can't see

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with your eyes but you can see it in

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infrared

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come on you guys like give me thoughts

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what do you guys think I have no

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explanation for that to be honest I I

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could make something up but it would be

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total [\h__\h] so I don't want to Jason

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what do you think yeah I mean we

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speculated last week but I I I've got

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nothing nothing I mean you know from an

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investigator's standpoint you always

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want to physically be there you want to

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experience it for yourself because

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experiencing makes it real for you you

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know it's easy for people watching a TV

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show you know for me being a spectator

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right now and seeing something and

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thinking oh yeah well it could be this

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this or this I wasn't there you know

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these guys are there and this isn't the

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only time that they've seen it right so

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I mean for somebody who hasn't

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experienced that personally you know I

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think that would change everything for

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me in terms of you know how much weight

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I give it and how how like bizarre it is

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to me and how how just confounded I am

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and just as a spectator I'm already that

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way so I've got

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and I think so a question because I

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haven't like watched the video a million

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times or anything was it was it pretty

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even in size or did it expand or either

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at the top or the bottom anywhere right

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you want answer that yes sure

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so um you know fortunately I watched

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last week's and some of your you know

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theories on what it was which no we're

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good and we've had to debunk so many

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crazy light effects on the ranch due to

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you know traffic in the distance or you

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know people with flashlights and saints

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and things like that or used-car Lots I

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think someone was yeah Travis when it

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showed that graphic of that beating so

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this one actually the way that it it

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appeared on the infrared was if it was

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coming from right near kind of where the

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Homestead number two is which is around

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the corner which there's no possible way

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there's any traffic over there so you

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know the whole headlight reflection

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thing and not not a thing and in it it

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seemed like it was a very uniform with

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it didn't you know it didn't seem like

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it was wider at the bottom or at the top

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and and appeared as if it was coming

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from the ground going up I mean Travis

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used you know I think he used the

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terminology it looks like it's tracking

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something you know I don't I don't know

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you know what he was thinking when up

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but they definitely had them had all of

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us including the scientists absolutely

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stumped as to what it could be and they

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reviewed that footage over that's the

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thing I love about Eric bard

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is he wants to debunk everything does

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and foremost because he's like before

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he'll put anything out there as unusual

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or strange he is gonna go through

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painstakingly just effort look I mean a

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ton of effort to try and bunk what it is

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I mean you should see what a snowflake

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being blown in the wind under infrared

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light looks like you would swear it is

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like the most spectacular

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you fo you know or the thing every fact

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we've even you know we've called them

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snores because there's so many of them

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let's but light snowflake under infrared

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and so it's taking a lot of you know

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learning what is actually there and

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natural versus things that we absolutely

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have gone through everything to try and

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figure out what it is before we say okay

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that it's strain or that's unusual

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because you know how it is how many

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times have you seen dirt on a camera

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lens if people swear this always Jason

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and I can definitely attest to that

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because we've dealt with that our whole

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career in this field and we used to get

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called slowly and slowly because they'd

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yell at us for debunking but it's the

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same thing it's ruling out what it could

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possibly be before you decide it's

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something anomalous right and and Eric

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doesn't play around like you know I

436
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always say Eric you're curmudgeon like

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he just wants to throw cold water on

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every every theory that there is and we

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call him the angry little elf nope I'll

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never forget I was home for the holidays

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and that that one and they had calling

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it an iconic image because I loved that

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one image where the infrared light is

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coming you know straight up and what I

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found so fascinating is that there's no

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bleed from that light and what I mean by

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that is not dissipating it doesn't get

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lesser as it kind of goes outward it's

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literally it looks like a beam and I was

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visiting or I was home for the holidays

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and he sent me that picture this is

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December 23rd so it's like he's like

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look at this I'm looking at this this

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tower and I was like okay cool you know

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what is it he's like you're naked I

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can't see that I think wait what and

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then it becomes this no way and so I

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think it frustrated him a lot at that

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time like you know when the date stamp

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is on there there was real time like he

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definitely had gotten frustrated from

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that and I know that he spent a lot of

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time you know get into the bottom of

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that but he's uh yeah angry I loved it I

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had I had nerd that one from him that's

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probably gonna be angry or elf because I

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shouted dragon versus

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in Grinnell the things like a t-shirt he

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is just he's one of my favorite people

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and one of the smartest people I've ever

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met I mean it's it's unbelievable so

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we're lucky really lucky to have him

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because of that very reason he is 100%

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you know his mantra and you've heard it

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before is I'm not here to believe or

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disbelieve I'm here to observe him

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before anything out there

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ever he is gonna go through every last

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way of proving it to be something normal

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before he's even willing to say that's

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even interesting your story interesting

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yet for him to say interesting that's a

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big step like a lot of times would be

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like and he'll try to explain things

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away and it's like okay well you used

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that thing called science no it's that

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you know that you explained it but uh

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and I was I was saying it before and I'm

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sure you'd heard it yeah right like you

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know he is a really good way of saying

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of breaking things down so people can

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understand and we'll get more of that I

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feel like you know you're gonna see more

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of Eric's personality that way come out

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you know he's just genuinely awesome I

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mean I can't say enough good things

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about him so it's uh yeah I mean I just

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say so many things and it's like I can't

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yet it's anyway you know I've probably

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already said stuff is you can name text

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messages right now from Brandon I'm not

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nice so if anyone if you lose power or

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anything kind of like I did in in our

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first episode you know we might know why

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just assume it's been shut down the

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thing is as Brandon is you know I've

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known Brandon for 28 years and you know

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what he is so excited and he genuinely

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is excited yeah you allow people to see

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what's going on the range because it was

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such you know it's his passion it's his

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toy he doesn't you know he's not out for

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monetary gain or anything he doesn't

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need it

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it literally is his science project and

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I've I've I've told him

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on many occasions he's like the most

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successful 17 year old kid I've ever met

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because that's his passion and

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excitement for things like this so

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that's you know that's what's been cool

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and yeah he's all about you know what if

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we actually find stuff we want people to

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know about it we're not gonna hide it

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away or you know that's what we're here

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for and he's been super genuine about a

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lot of this stuff and I remember you

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know first first conversations that had

529
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with him it was like you want to share

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like he really wanted to share his

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journey in the exploration with other

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people I mean as opposed it's the

533
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complete opposite of the Bigelow era

534
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where it was just like know that me

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hoard all the data and keep it to myself

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Brennan is like look you know I want

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other people to join me on this journey

538
00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:30,979
and I and I was really impressed with

539
00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:32,809
the fact that like here's someone who

540
00:23:36,940 --> 00:23:34,609
has the resources to do something that

541
00:23:38,829 --> 00:23:36,950
millions of people would love to know

542
00:23:41,079 --> 00:23:38,839
the answer to or love to do go out there

543
00:23:42,759 --> 00:23:41,089
and those kick-ass camping trips with

544
00:23:45,009 --> 00:23:42,769
like you know tens of thousands worth of

545
00:23:46,329 --> 00:23:45,019
dollars worth of gear it's like he's

546
00:23:48,159 --> 00:23:46,339
doing it and he's sharing that with

547
00:23:50,469 --> 00:23:48,169
people and it's like I think people

548
00:23:52,269 --> 00:23:50,479
really appreciate that fact and I know

549
00:23:54,219 --> 00:23:52,279
that people talk about it on television

550
00:23:57,219 --> 00:23:54,229
and it's it's you know it's manufactured

551
00:23:59,469 --> 00:23:57,229
no it's not so one of the great things I

552
00:24:02,589 --> 00:23:59,479
want to tell people when developing the

553
00:24:04,209 --> 00:24:02,599
show what was so great was what is

554
00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:04,219
happening at the ranch was happening

555
00:24:09,249 --> 00:24:06,769
regardless if a television show

556
00:24:11,109 --> 00:24:09,259
happening so this was going on there was

557
00:24:13,659 --> 00:24:11,119
no TV show happening they were doing

558
00:24:16,060 --> 00:24:13,669
this already and that's why this show

559
00:24:18,759 --> 00:24:16,070
really got the interest of network

560
00:24:20,349 --> 00:24:18,769
because it's genuine it's there's no

561
00:24:22,180 --> 00:24:20,359
casting there's nothing like that it was

562
00:24:24,399 --> 00:24:22,190
like oh we could just plug in some

563
00:24:26,529 --> 00:24:24,409
cameras and film what they're doing well

564
00:24:28,269 --> 00:24:26,539
then [\h__\h] this is great they're doing

565
00:24:30,669 --> 00:24:28,279
all the hard work we're just videotaping

566
00:24:32,349 --> 00:24:30,679
stuff so all of this was already

567
00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:32,359
happening and I think that's something

568
00:24:36,129 --> 00:24:33,769
that's really important to get out there

569
00:24:38,169 --> 00:24:36,139
like this is not this wasn't cast this

570
00:24:39,579 --> 00:24:38,179
wasn't put together and we drink right

571
00:24:42,609 --> 00:24:39,589
you could have tested this and Jason

572
00:24:45,459 --> 00:24:42,619
please yeah yes I I can't because I was

573
00:24:46,930 --> 00:24:45,469
called a really bad actor half know like

574
00:24:49,930 --> 00:24:46,940
well that's good that's good

575
00:24:55,479 --> 00:24:49,940
because that is not what I have that's a

576
00:24:56,769 --> 00:24:55,489
very good compliment yeah right but no

577
00:24:58,060 --> 00:24:56,779
sharing this with people so people can

578
00:25:00,180 --> 00:24:58,070
actually see what's going on it's kind

579
00:25:02,399 --> 00:25:00,190
of it's it's kind of Awesome it

580
00:25:04,619 --> 00:25:02,409
number four so well and that kind of

581
00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:04,629
lends to the fact it's been our little

582
00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:08,529
core group from the beginning you know I

583
00:25:12,990 --> 00:25:11,049
know there's been questions as to you

584
00:25:14,999 --> 00:25:13,000
know why is the security guy sitting at

585
00:25:17,490 --> 00:25:15,009
the table talking about this kind of

586
00:25:20,039 --> 00:25:17,500
stuff and science well just because I

587
00:25:20,909 --> 00:25:20,049
mean we all pitch in and do pretty much

588
00:25:23,100 --> 00:25:20,919
everything

589
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:23,110
I mean we're small you know we're a

590
00:25:27,149 --> 00:25:25,360
small group we're really tight we call

591
00:25:28,919 --> 00:25:27,159
ourselves the ranch family no you guys

592
00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:28,929
are a rich family you're her family and

593
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:32,710
I you know we all wear you know

594
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:34,330
different hats depending on what's

595
00:25:38,669 --> 00:25:36,970
needed mine happens to be black and I

596
00:25:40,860 --> 00:25:38,679
have the quote title of head of security

597
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:40,870
because that's you know part of what I

598
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:44,320
do but you know setting up equipment and

599
00:25:49,169 --> 00:25:46,090
helping with scientific experiments back

600
00:25:51,330 --> 00:25:49,179
just today I was hoping Eric you know

601
00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:51,340
try and figure out something that he's

602
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:52,240
trying to do with some of the

603
00:25:55,889 --> 00:25:54,129
surveillance you know to help out and

604
00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:55,899
and add another element to things and

605
00:26:03,570 --> 00:25:58,000
things like that it's just we all pitch

606
00:26:06,299 --> 00:26:03,580
in and you know I've told TJ this the

607
00:26:10,019 --> 00:26:06,309
one thing that Brandon values more in

608
00:26:12,269 --> 00:26:10,029
this world then you know finances or

609
00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:12,279
whatever is you know there's it's two

610
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:14,769
things trust and loyalty and he wants

611
00:26:19,230 --> 00:26:16,090
people he can trust and he knows they're

612
00:26:21,149 --> 00:26:19,240
loyal to him and so you know I like I

613
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:21,159
said I've known I've known him for

614
00:26:27,539 --> 00:26:24,490
better part of my life and he trusts me

615
00:26:32,430 --> 00:26:27,549
and he gave me the mandate and said

616
00:26:34,999 --> 00:26:32,440
don't let people dig so that's I took a

617
00:26:38,669 --> 00:26:35,009
beating for that one too I know so so in

618
00:26:39,930 --> 00:26:38,679
the first episode I was thinking we

619
00:26:41,399 --> 00:26:39,940
could get into this stuff at the end but

620
00:26:42,930 --> 00:26:41,409
since you just brought it up you know at

621
00:26:44,820 --> 00:26:42,940
the end of this episode but no no this

622
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:44,830
is great so tell us about that like that

623
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:47,710
was not a that wasn't you know you were

624
00:26:51,810 --> 00:26:49,570
watching his back right he told you no

625
00:26:53,789 --> 00:26:51,820
digging and you were just doing I don't

626
00:26:55,499 --> 00:26:53,799
think I said like this is this is your

627
00:26:58,289 --> 00:26:55,509
job to uphold these you know his

628
00:26:59,999 --> 00:26:58,299
mandates I mean it wasn't like it was

629
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:00,009
again it's not something manufactured

630
00:27:02,909 --> 00:27:01,690
like the legit you know suppose you

631
00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:02,919
didn't watch people a day because people

632
00:27:07,529 --> 00:27:05,440
got hurt as we see the thing about is

633
00:27:11,310 --> 00:27:07,539
anyone that knows me am like the least

634
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:11,320
superstitious person you'll and so I

635
00:27:16,190 --> 00:27:13,650
came home of the ranch I

636
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:16,200
I would like I'd like to say I was kind

637
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:18,810
of an agnostic toward all of this stuff

638
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:21,360
I told Brandon he was crazy I'm like

639
00:27:26,180 --> 00:27:24,810
you're buying 512 acres of bench are you

640
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:26,190
in a basin and you don't even own a pair

641
00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:28,320
of jeans to wear out there I mean he

642
00:27:37,580 --> 00:27:31,440
literally little gently does or seekers

643
00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:37,590
and and so you know I said sure you know

644
00:27:42,140 --> 00:27:39,000
I'll go out and help you out do some

645
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:42,150
things and so on and so forth and so you

646
00:27:47,180 --> 00:27:44,370
know I didn't really know a bunch of

647
00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:47,190
stories about the ranch or necessarily

648
00:27:52,790 --> 00:27:50,480
think that it was a thing but you know

649
00:27:54,770 --> 00:27:52,800
experiencing what happened with Tom and

650
00:27:56,540 --> 00:27:54,780
then you know the previous you know

651
00:28:00,350 --> 00:27:56,550
narrative that came along with things

652
00:28:02,660 --> 00:28:00,360
and you know I just kind of took it for

653
00:28:04,490 --> 00:28:02,670
his word you need to keep people in line

654
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:04,500
and one of the things that you know

655
00:28:08,060 --> 00:28:06,570
could cause trouble is you know digging

656
00:28:10,370 --> 00:28:08,070
and you know one other element that

657
00:28:12,170 --> 00:28:10,380
people don't talk about is you know

658
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:12,180
we're surrounded by Native American land

659
00:28:18,050 --> 00:28:15,330
fears and this wasn't always owned

660
00:28:19,790 --> 00:28:18,060
privately you know prior to you know the

661
00:28:21,710 --> 00:28:19,800
Meijer and things like that I'm sure

662
00:28:25,580 --> 00:28:21,720
that you know the Native Americans

663
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:25,590
roamed so out of respect for that too

664
00:28:29,030 --> 00:28:27,510
I mean we don't know necessarily what's

665
00:28:30,830 --> 00:28:29,040
underneath the ground there could be you

666
00:28:33,130 --> 00:28:30,840
know graves there could be all different

667
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:33,140
that's why we really want to try to use

668
00:28:38,750 --> 00:28:36,570
non-invasive things as opposed to hey

669
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:38,760
we're going to go out and big holes

670
00:28:42,370 --> 00:28:40,170
because they said that that's what

671
00:28:45,020 --> 00:28:42,380
triggers crazy stuff to happen so you

672
00:28:47,330 --> 00:28:45,030
combine all those things and the mandate

673
00:28:49,130 --> 00:28:47,340
that look you're gonna get a lot of

674
00:28:50,660 --> 00:28:49,140
these guys that are excited and want to

675
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:50,670
go do a whole bunch of stuff but I need

676
00:28:56,210 --> 00:28:53,490
you to kind of be the bad guy if you

677
00:28:58,250 --> 00:28:56,220
will and keep everyone in line because I

678
00:29:00,020 --> 00:28:58,260
don't want people getting hurt first and

679
00:29:01,940 --> 00:29:00,030
foremost and the liability that goes

680
00:29:04,340 --> 00:29:01,950
along with that everything else so it's

681
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:04,350
kind of where that all came from Jason

682
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:06,210
Maureen like is this something that you

683
00:29:10,130 --> 00:29:08,730
would say I mean is unprecedented in the

684
00:29:12,830 --> 00:29:10,140
fact that someone is sharing like this

685
00:29:14,780 --> 00:29:12,840
the brand and sharing these experiments

686
00:29:16,190 --> 00:29:14,790
and whatnot or is there kind of

687
00:29:17,330 --> 00:29:16,200
something he can look to or we can look

688
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:17,340
to to say like okay here's the

689
00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:18,650
precedents that's been set in the past

690
00:29:23,150 --> 00:29:21,600
about people sharing info and whatnot or

691
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:23,160
is this kind of a unique situation I

692
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:25,650
think no I I think that it's all over

693
00:29:29,630 --> 00:29:27,840
the board so you have a lot of people

694
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:29,640
or on the side where they want to share

695
00:29:34,610 --> 00:29:32,510
all the info and are excited to do so in

696
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:34,620
sometimes to a fault where they're

697
00:29:38,180 --> 00:29:36,450
presenting information that hasn't been

698
00:29:40,940 --> 00:29:38,190
reviewed and it's not very scientific

699
00:29:43,159 --> 00:29:40,950
and that's a huge problem and then you

700
00:29:46,010 --> 00:29:43,169
have situations like you mentioned with

701
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:46,020
Bigelow and I actually saw some people

702
00:29:51,289 --> 00:29:48,450
asking about this based on this last

703
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:51,299
episode where at the intro you say are

704
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:53,760
somebody the narrator says Bigelow never

705
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:55,710
found anything or something like that

706
00:29:59,810 --> 00:29:57,600
and then you go to Todd which is yeah we

707
00:30:02,269 --> 00:29:59,820
all know it's not necessarily true but

708
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:02,279
then it goes on to say later he just or

709
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:04,080
I think Brandon even said it like he

710
00:30:07,250 --> 00:30:05,850
just wouldn't share that information we

711
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:07,260
don't know what happened with a lot of

712
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:09,809
that and that's that's more of the story

713
00:30:14,990 --> 00:30:13,200
as Bigelow is kind of tends to hold that

714
00:30:17,899 --> 00:30:15,000
information onto his own and we know

715
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:17,909
that for both his aerospace company and

716
00:30:23,330 --> 00:30:21,210
andrew skinwalker ranch as well so it's

717
00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:23,340
not that nobody would ever share data

718
00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:24,809
there's plenty of people that you

719
00:30:28,730 --> 00:30:26,940
research this kind of thing that share

720
00:30:31,340 --> 00:30:28,740
all of their findings very well

721
00:30:34,220 --> 00:30:31,350
documented and scientifically but yeah

722
00:30:37,399 --> 00:30:34,230
it's it's just it's a it's a you know

723
00:30:41,810 --> 00:30:37,409
ball game I guess you could say we live

724
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:41,820
in a society no Jason what do you think

725
00:30:45,289 --> 00:30:43,710
of it we in on this like come on I mean

726
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:45,299
I know you you were very analytical as

727
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:46,890
well like you are always breaking stuff

728
00:30:51,710 --> 00:30:48,960
down and sometimes when I talk with

729
00:30:54,529 --> 00:30:51,720
Jason by the way I makes me feel like

730
00:30:56,810 --> 00:30:54,539
he's not listening because he doesn't

731
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:56,820
respond and like do head nods or

732
00:31:02,870 --> 00:30:58,080
anything like that or smile or like

733
00:31:05,180 --> 00:31:02,880
uh-huh well just looks like it's funny

734
00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:05,190
because he looks at you like yeah dude

735
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:07,710
yep like wait what

736
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:09,120
I wasn't even asking a yes-or-no

737
00:31:13,639 --> 00:31:12,210
question I understand you have no idea

738
00:31:18,430 --> 00:31:13,649
the conversations that's going on in my

739
00:31:20,659 --> 00:31:18,440
head you don't want my keys no no I mean

740
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:20,669
certainly with skinwalker with with the

741
00:31:24,350 --> 00:31:22,890
ranch itself you know this is this is

742
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:24,360
fantastic this is something new that we

743
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:26,880
haven't haven't had before you know we

744
00:31:32,899 --> 00:31:29,570
sort of got some layers peeled back with

745
00:31:35,210 --> 00:31:32,909
George Knapp and Colin Kelleher to a

746
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:35,220
very limited degree you know because

747
00:31:39,930 --> 00:31:38,490
they were bound by NTAs they were

748
00:31:41,659 --> 00:31:39,940
restricted from what information

749
00:31:44,450 --> 00:31:41,669
they shared and even in recent years

750
00:31:47,399 --> 00:31:44,460
when partnering up with Jeremy Korbel

751
00:31:49,710 --> 00:31:47,409
George was able to get a little more of

752
00:31:52,409 --> 00:31:49,720
his stuff out about the ranch but even

753
00:31:55,919 --> 00:31:52,419
that still he was heavily restricted on

754
00:31:57,570 --> 00:31:55,929
what he could share so now Brandon just

755
00:31:59,549 --> 00:31:57,580
wants to get this information out wants

756
00:32:01,710 --> 00:31:59,559
to share with everybody but at the same

757
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:01,720
time seems to be doing it responsibly I

758
00:32:07,340 --> 00:32:04,480
like that and like Brian said with

759
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:07,350
people on the team that have been

760
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:10,330
selected for their skill sets and people

761
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:14,289
like Eric who are not there to push

762
00:32:21,149 --> 00:32:18,450
forward you know the lure of the ranch

763
00:32:23,970 --> 00:32:21,159
people are there to find answers to find

764
00:32:25,919 --> 00:32:23,980
the truth so that's really good to see

765
00:32:28,499 --> 00:32:25,929
and from an investigation standpoint

766
00:32:31,860 --> 00:32:28,509
this is kind of you know unusual when it

767
00:32:34,110 --> 00:32:31,870
comes to the world of a paranormal right

768
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:34,120
well I mean this is great I just I love

769
00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:35,289
that we're able to talk about this more

770
00:32:40,409 --> 00:32:37,600
openly than people I seem to have and

771
00:32:42,690 --> 00:32:40,419
doing in the past but you know I want to

772
00:32:44,879 --> 00:32:42,700
mean we could talk for god we can go on

773
00:32:47,879 --> 00:32:44,889
for hours honestly good we should

774
00:32:49,409 --> 00:32:47,889
probably get two episodes move on three

775
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:49,419
I mean this is just the Libyan kind

776
00:32:53,970 --> 00:32:51,279
episode three all right and we've been

777
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:53,980
chatty chatter send over here so alright

778
00:32:58,110 --> 00:32:56,080
so we come to episode three starts off

779
00:33:00,450 --> 00:32:58,120
and you know you got you got there the

780
00:33:01,860 --> 00:33:00,460
flashback of the you know where they saw

781
00:33:03,810 --> 00:33:01,870
in the glow and the flicker and the beam

782
00:33:07,259 --> 00:33:03,820
and then Tom's injury so we come back

783
00:33:09,539 --> 00:33:07,269
into the Vblock where we have you know

784
00:33:11,850 --> 00:33:09,549
Tom talking about his injuries and you

785
00:33:14,490 --> 00:33:11,860
know he he go he talks about you know

786
00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:14,500
shadow people or you know what he had

787
00:33:19,649 --> 00:33:16,000
seen they kind of reference that stuff

788
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:19,659
and then he comes back like he comes

789
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:22,090
back from the hospital I mean I don't

790
00:33:28,289 --> 00:33:25,210
want to get too much into the reactions

791
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:28,299
that we had had because there's there's

792
00:33:31,649 --> 00:33:30,370
a lot of backstory there and and Bryant

793
00:33:32,850 --> 00:33:31,659
you and I had spoken about this there's

794
00:33:35,749 --> 00:33:32,860
a lot of backstory that goes on there

795
00:33:38,190 --> 00:33:35,759
that we really just gloss over in

796
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:38,200
because we haven't really developed or

797
00:33:42,899 --> 00:33:40,450
given people a lot of insight into Jim

798
00:33:44,610 --> 00:33:42,909
Morse and Jim like I think I had said in

799
00:33:45,930 --> 00:33:44,620
Episode one like Jim like my son calls

800
00:33:48,299 --> 00:33:45,940
it you saw my mom and I saw my son

801
00:33:50,869 --> 00:33:48,309
earlier like you know my son calls him

802
00:33:53,310 --> 00:33:50,879
Uncle Jim like Jim's one of the boys

803
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:53,320
right exactly like he's one of

804
00:33:56,940 --> 00:33:54,970
biggest hearted people and you know it's

805
00:33:59,789 --> 00:33:56,950
like manda and just see what happens to

806
00:34:02,399 --> 00:33:59,799
him and to see his reaction and we have

807
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:02,409
yet to have a any kind of explanation as

808
00:34:06,330 --> 00:34:04,450
to why he did I don't want to go too

809
00:34:07,710 --> 00:34:06,340
deep into that but they like Brian said

810
00:34:08,940 --> 00:34:07,720
there are family these guys aren't a

811
00:34:10,919 --> 00:34:08,950
family they love each other they know

812
00:34:13,169 --> 00:34:10,929
each other for years it's like they all

813
00:34:15,950 --> 00:34:13,179
got each other's backs and so you know

814
00:34:18,629 --> 00:34:15,960
just getting past that part like the the

815
00:34:19,829 --> 00:34:18,639
that tight connections and all that we

816
00:34:23,339 --> 00:34:19,839
got it now

817
00:34:24,750 --> 00:34:23,349
Tom's injuries he seems to be okay um

818
00:34:26,909 --> 00:34:24,760
but he's definitely scared definitely

819
00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:26,919
spooked from it and I know Brian you

820
00:34:30,930 --> 00:34:28,000
could probably give us some insight into

821
00:34:33,450 --> 00:34:30,940
that you know what was going on with him

822
00:34:34,859 --> 00:34:33,460
when he came back and even the night of

823
00:34:36,210 --> 00:34:34,869
like the night out like when you had to

824
00:34:39,809 --> 00:34:36,220
take him I mean will you guys wealth

825
00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:39,819
room in the room in the vehicle and just

826
00:34:43,889 --> 00:34:42,399
kind of like took off like what was

827
00:34:45,530 --> 00:34:43,899
going on like give us some insight that

828
00:34:49,260 --> 00:34:45,540
we didn't see on the show if you could

829
00:34:51,419 --> 00:34:49,270
well I mean I know they talk they give a

830
00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:51,429
brief description of Palms injury but I

831
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:52,960
mean it was it truly was

832
00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:55,810
life-threatening so his original you

833
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:00,160
know initial injury and it was you know

834
00:35:05,059 --> 00:35:02,050
a scary thing and so the fact that even

835
00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:05,069
wanted to come back onto the ranch was

836
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:08,640
surprising to pretty much everybody but

837
00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:11,680
I'm just kind of a head first into

838
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:16,569
things type of a guy and so you know

839
00:35:22,349 --> 00:35:19,930
after having met Travis and talked about

840
00:35:24,660 --> 00:35:22,359
you know with digging and Toms injury

841
00:35:26,490 --> 00:35:24,670
and everything and and I looked at as

842
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:26,500
yeah that's in the past type of thing so

843
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:30,310
the fact that we were out there and you

844
00:35:34,829 --> 00:35:33,130
know tom was a tough dude I just want

845
00:35:37,050 --> 00:35:34,839
you guys to know that he is one of the

846
00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:37,060
he's the one of the toughest guys that I

847
00:35:41,250 --> 00:35:39,910
know I mean that guy is like scary

848
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:41,260
sometimes because he'll go running

849
00:35:45,660 --> 00:35:43,650
headlong into whatever he's also like

850
00:35:48,300 --> 00:35:45,670
martial art or see a black belt don't

851
00:35:50,370 --> 00:35:48,310
know but is it Taekwon taekwondo jujitsu

852
00:35:59,550 --> 00:35:50,380
I can't remember if Tommy so he's he's

853
00:36:05,640 --> 00:35:59,560
the actual dragon yes getting a bad

854
00:36:07,020 --> 00:36:05,650
connection now no no no Tom's he really

855
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:07,030
is and we

856
00:36:11,730 --> 00:36:08,530
rely on him heavily for all kinds of

857
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:11,740
stuff so the fact that he would you know

858
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:14,050
it scared him bad enough because he did

859
00:36:18,570 --> 00:36:16,210
he start felt I really think that we

860
00:36:20,370 --> 00:36:18,580
were holding that reflector board and I

861
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:20,380
don't know if that focused the RF you

862
00:36:24,690 --> 00:36:23,200
know it's all speculation as far as what

863
00:36:26,370 --> 00:36:24,700
trigger I think it's kind of like the

864
00:36:28,260 --> 00:36:26,380
way I look at it is you know once

865
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:28,270
somebody is injured like say a knee or

866
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:30,130
something you're way more susceptible to

867
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:32,290
that type of an injury again and it

868
00:36:35,610 --> 00:36:34,090
affects some people differently so you

869
00:36:37,770 --> 00:36:35,620
know the fact that he started

870
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:37,780
complaining and that he had pain in the

871
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:39,970
back of his head it was like okay all

872
00:36:41,850 --> 00:36:40,570
bets are off

873
00:36:42,990 --> 00:36:41,860
we're getting you out of here because

874
00:36:44,130 --> 00:36:43,000
we're not going to stick around and see

875
00:36:45,780 --> 00:36:44,140
what happens I don't care what's going

876
00:36:48,420 --> 00:36:45,790
on I don't care if there's a TV show

877
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:48,430
filming I don't care we're seeing crazy

878
00:36:55,470 --> 00:36:51,490
things we're getting you straight away

879
00:36:57,780 --> 00:36:55,480
out of here and so you know you could

880
00:37:00,120 --> 00:36:57,790
tell it scared him a little bit and and

881
00:37:02,610 --> 00:37:00,130
so you know we got him out of there as

882
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:02,620
quickly as possible I'm glad that you

883
00:37:08,670 --> 00:37:05,770
know it didn't he didn't have a much

884
00:37:10,980 --> 00:37:08,680
longer exposure because I'm you know I

885
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:10,990
begin to wonder the actor did his first

886
00:37:15,570 --> 00:37:13,450
injury if he maybe felt something was

887
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:15,580
just like yeah whatever you know so

888
00:37:20,730 --> 00:37:18,310
luckily he was you know willing to say

889
00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:20,740
you know what something's not right

890
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:22,270
I need to get out of here because I know

891
00:37:27,090 --> 00:37:25,570
it startled him because he literally you

892
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:27,100
know he talks about to this day he still

893
00:37:31,350 --> 00:37:29,170
has you know side effects from his

894
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:31,360
original injury and you know I'll let

895
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:32,770
him talk about that kind of stuff right

896
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:37,210
not my place but yeah it was it was

897
00:37:42,180 --> 00:37:40,450
definitely a scary thing and you know we

898
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:42,190
wanted to get him out of there as

899
00:37:46,260 --> 00:37:44,050
quickly as possible and then you know

900
00:37:48,330 --> 00:37:46,270
what they didn't show is you know when

901
00:37:49,710 --> 00:37:48,340
we had him back here in the command

902
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:49,720
center he was like no I think if I just

903
00:37:55,110 --> 00:37:51,490
lay down for a little bit all the time

904
00:37:58,830 --> 00:37:55,120
you know I think I'll be fine and we

905
00:38:01,320 --> 00:37:58,840
just said no you've got and luckily you

906
00:38:05,490 --> 00:38:01,330
know Jim Cigala was there and Jim was

907
00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:05,500
brought in you know initially to take a

908
00:38:08,850 --> 00:38:07,420
look at Tom's injuries because just the

909
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:08,860
normal medical doctors didn't have an

910
00:38:14,010 --> 00:38:10,570
explanation for what happened to him so

911
00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:14,020
it was definitely a scary thing and it

912
00:38:19,470 --> 00:38:16,960
was it was an emotional thing for all of

913
00:38:20,730 --> 00:38:19,480
us you know and you know as you touched

914
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:20,740
on TJ

915
00:38:24,330 --> 00:38:22,690
Tom and Jim have a really tight

916
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:24,340
relationship they're like almost like a

917
00:38:28,130 --> 00:38:26,320
brother or a father-son type of

918
00:38:30,270 --> 00:38:28,140
relationship and at the end of the day

919
00:38:31,950 --> 00:38:30,280
Tom would have never even been part of

920
00:38:35,250 --> 00:38:31,960
this had Jim not decided to stay at

921
00:38:38,010 --> 00:38:35,260
Tom's motel when he first was you know

922
00:38:39,630 --> 00:38:38,020
helping Brandon you know launching this

923
00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:39,640
sort of thing and met him found out he

924
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:41,590
was a contractor I had a skill set and

925
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:43,690
brought him out so he feels a little bit

926
00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:46,690
even more responsible just due to the

927
00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:48,400
fact that he exposed Tom to the ranch in

928
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:50,950
the first place and so you know there

929
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:52,330
was a lot of that emotion that was shown

930
00:38:57,359 --> 00:38:53,920
because that was the first he heard of

931
00:38:59,310 --> 00:38:57,369
it and so yeah it was and I want to

932
00:39:00,660 --> 00:38:59,320
leave it open like because well for

933
00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:00,670
those well we already even said it yet

934
00:39:05,790 --> 00:39:02,260
but Tom will be here with us next week

935
00:39:07,290 --> 00:39:05,800
and I Jimin I've been going back and

936
00:39:09,090 --> 00:39:07,300
forth so hopefully we can get something

937
00:39:10,890 --> 00:39:09,100
scheduled where Jim can can get on here

938
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:10,900
as well and tell us because I don't want

939
00:39:14,460 --> 00:39:12,610
to speak for them I want them to tell

940
00:39:16,140 --> 00:39:14,470
their stories on their own but thank you

941
00:39:19,140 --> 00:39:16,150
I mean I'm glad you were able to you

942
00:39:21,210 --> 00:39:19,150
know give us some insight into it I

943
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:21,220
appreciate that and I think it's gonna

944
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:22,570
got to go a long way people are gonna

945
00:39:25,470 --> 00:39:24,610
you know understand there's people here

946
00:39:27,660 --> 00:39:25,480
these aren't says it's not just

947
00:39:31,140 --> 00:39:27,670
television show these are real people

948
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:31,150
it's is this really happening and uh one

949
00:39:33,690 --> 00:39:32,560
thing before we go on keep moving

950
00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:33,700
forward like the one thing that really

951
00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:35,350
gets me and I'm sure you know Jason

952
00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:37,150
Marina you guys have seen us before you

953
00:39:41,790 --> 00:39:39,220
know it's like one of the big comments

954
00:39:43,470 --> 00:39:41,800
you see online a lot is that well if

955
00:39:45,060 --> 00:39:43,480
there was something that really happened

956
00:39:48,270 --> 00:39:45,070
something important well we'd know about

957
00:39:51,690 --> 00:39:48,280
it by now it'd be in the news and what I

958
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:51,700
always want to tell these people is they

959
00:39:56,970 --> 00:39:54,850
are you aware of what an NDA is like if

960
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:56,980
this got to the news people may not work

961
00:40:01,470 --> 00:39:58,570
again you know television is a very

962
00:40:03,090 --> 00:40:01,480
small industry and if you're the one

963
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:03,100
who's got a big mouth and starts talking

964
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:04,210
guess what you're not doing anymore

965
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:05,410
you're not working

966
00:40:10,020 --> 00:40:07,570
no one's gonna trust you or hire you so

967
00:40:11,550 --> 00:40:10,030
to all those naysayers that are saying

968
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:11,560
this is oh well we would know about it

969
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:13,330
if it wasn't poor no you wouldn't know

970
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:14,710
about it if it was important because

971
00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:17,440
people are talking about it that's their

972
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:19,390
job you know if Bryant you know this

973
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:21,130
like we've talked about this before you

974
00:40:25,620 --> 00:40:23,650
know my kids are loving I have three

975
00:40:26,910 --> 00:40:25,630
boys and they're loving this show

976
00:40:29,790 --> 00:40:26,920
because they actually get to see what's

977
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:29,800
going on they've asked me and I really

978
00:40:33,950 --> 00:40:31,650
same thing you know I'm under a strict

979
00:40:35,540 --> 00:40:33,960
non-disclosure agreement

980
00:40:37,819 --> 00:40:35,550
I haven't even been able to tell my

981
00:40:40,700 --> 00:40:37,829
closest you know my people might give

982
00:40:41,930 --> 00:40:40,710
things like that so right if it leaks

983
00:40:43,490 --> 00:40:41,940
out if it gets out then you know what

984
00:40:45,410 --> 00:40:43,500
it's kind of like ah there's

985
00:40:46,609 --> 00:40:45,420
repercussions to that and so I want

986
00:40:50,329 --> 00:40:46,619
people understand this is a real thing

987
00:40:51,740 --> 00:40:50,339
so you know as we go on so we get you

988
00:40:53,690 --> 00:40:51,750
know hopefully we'll get you know Tom

989
00:40:55,130 --> 00:40:53,700
and Tom of ether next week and hopefully

990
00:40:57,470 --> 00:40:55,140
get you in here to talk more about that

991
00:40:58,819 --> 00:40:57,480
but so I want to go to this because this

992
00:41:01,130 --> 00:40:58,829
is something that just happened and it

993
00:41:02,870 --> 00:41:01,140
has happened in the past and so we were

994
00:41:05,299 --> 00:41:02,880
continuing on with the show and we get

995
00:41:06,770 --> 00:41:05,309
to the B Block and so we have a drone

996
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:06,780
and you making a comment you know it's

997
00:41:11,210 --> 00:41:08,970
35,000 dollar drone it's not a joke this

998
00:41:14,809 --> 00:41:11,220
is a real thing this is the big boys

999
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:14,819
toys and the batteries died it or I'm

1000
00:41:19,609 --> 00:41:16,609
sorry no we can't get a signal right um

1001
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:19,619
yes you guys so we talked about this I

1002
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:21,690
asked maureen last week the guys Jason's

1003
00:41:25,549 --> 00:41:23,250
well you know like what is the theory

1004
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:25,559
behind this and it's not I don't want to

1005
00:41:30,799 --> 00:41:27,930
go to the oh it's somebody's sucking

1006
00:41:32,839 --> 00:41:30,809
here so or some entity sucking the

1007
00:41:34,670 --> 00:41:32,849
energy out of the batteries I don't want

1008
00:41:36,410 --> 00:41:34,680
to make that jumped I mean I understand

1009
00:41:38,809 --> 00:41:36,420
people want to keep that open mind and

1010
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:38,819
stuff but like what you know you guys

1011
00:41:42,140 --> 00:41:40,170
have said to me like maybe it's

1012
00:41:44,690 --> 00:41:42,150
geological maybe it's you know magnetic

1013
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:44,700
whatever but um please can you guys like

1014
00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:46,290
speak to this for me I mean all of you I

1015
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:47,460
want to hear what everyone has to say

1016
00:41:53,359 --> 00:41:50,089
about this seriously

1017
00:42:02,480 --> 00:41:53,369
Jason there's nothing I've got nothing

1018
00:42:04,099 --> 00:42:02,490
new to add because Jason I feel like I

1019
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:04,109
want to put one of those river when you

1020
00:42:07,370 --> 00:42:06,210
were kids when I was a kid anyway they

1021
00:42:08,450 --> 00:42:07,380
used to have those strips you would put

1022
00:42:10,579 --> 00:42:08,460
across your forehead they would tell

1023
00:42:12,829 --> 00:42:10,589
your temperature remember like that was

1024
00:42:14,569 --> 00:42:12,839
before people did like the laser beam

1025
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:14,579
thing or the under the tongue where

1026
00:42:18,140 --> 00:42:16,049
they're talking I'm like I want to put

1027
00:42:19,309 --> 00:42:18,150
that on Jason you could see what he's

1028
00:42:21,170 --> 00:42:19,319
thinking like a like one of those

1029
00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:21,180
scrollers like in the bottom of the

1030
00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:22,710
screen like this is what Jason's

1031
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:24,480
thinking he's not gonna tell us but he's

1032
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:25,530
just as what's going through his mind

1033
00:42:29,150 --> 00:42:26,930
right now and you just did it again

1034
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:29,160
please tell us what's going on in this

1035
00:42:35,450 --> 00:42:33,530
hamster wheel thing of yours well

1036
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:35,460
there's there's a lot going on in my

1037
00:42:39,980 --> 00:42:37,680
head no not not really not much

1038
00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:39,990
happening right now but you know to your

1039
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:41,910
point we we we discussed this last week

1040
00:42:45,550 --> 00:42:44,730
and and the theories you know range from

1041
00:42:50,140 --> 00:42:45,560
thing

1042
00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:50,150
like the microwave radiation to to

1043
00:42:56,410 --> 00:42:53,510
something with EF frequencies you know

1044
00:42:58,770 --> 00:42:56,420
it could be any number of things but you

1045
00:43:01,540 --> 00:42:58,780
know as someone personally who hasn't

1046
00:43:03,460 --> 00:43:01,550
tested electronics and seeing what these

1047
00:43:05,020 --> 00:43:03,470
different types of frequencies do to

1048
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:05,030
electronics I don't know if that's a

1049
00:43:07,630 --> 00:43:06,650
possibility I just know those are things

1050
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:07,640
that have been thrown out there before

1051
00:43:13,630 --> 00:43:11,810
and with batteries draining in and

1052
00:43:15,340 --> 00:43:13,640
equipment failure it's not always

1053
00:43:17,620 --> 00:43:15,350
consistent it's not already the same

1054
00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:17,630
thing it's not always batteries draining

1055
00:43:21,490 --> 00:43:19,310
every time it's not batteries fully

1056
00:43:23,530 --> 00:43:21,500
draining its things shutting off it's

1057
00:43:24,190 --> 00:43:23,540
things not operating as they're supposed

1058
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:24,200
to

1059
00:43:29,500 --> 00:43:26,450
with the drone we saw the connectivity

1060
00:43:32,770 --> 00:43:29,510
issue it's just all the things that

1061
00:43:35,740 --> 00:43:32,780
don't happen in a consistent manner so

1062
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:35,750
from a scientific standpoint it's almost

1063
00:43:40,750 --> 00:43:38,330
impossible to be able to test because

1064
00:43:42,820 --> 00:43:40,760
you can't repeat it I mean there was a

1065
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:42,830
lot of people that mentioned on the fact

1066
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:45,050
of but there was a drone filming the

1067
00:43:49,930 --> 00:43:47,450
drone and how come that one didn't die

1068
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:49,940
so like Jason mentioned you know it's

1069
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:52,730
not across the board with everything and

1070
00:43:59,230 --> 00:43:55,490
and taking a test of that test our drone

1071
00:44:02,440 --> 00:43:59,240
diet yeah you're also out in the middle

1072
00:44:05,590 --> 00:44:02,450
of nowhere and there's a lot of crazy

1073
00:44:07,930 --> 00:44:05,600
stuff that can just happen in general I

1074
00:44:09,970 --> 00:44:07,940
believe with with electronics when

1075
00:44:12,430 --> 00:44:09,980
you're out in the boonies and even

1076
00:44:16,180 --> 00:44:12,440
though you've got a very sweet it seems

1077
00:44:18,940 --> 00:44:16,190
like I I'm not gonna jump to conclusions

1078
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:18,950
on what the sort of Wi-Fi setup is to

1079
00:44:23,050 --> 00:44:21,050
attach all those Bluetooth cameras

1080
00:44:24,970 --> 00:44:23,060
everywhere around the ranch

1081
00:44:28,510 --> 00:44:24,980
you could probably fill us in on that

1082
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:28,520
but that has got to be a lot of energy

1083
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:31,280
and craziness going on in some sort of

1084
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:32,810
big net or something

1085
00:44:39,250 --> 00:44:36,050
Oh actually yeah tell us about that yes

1086
00:44:42,490 --> 00:44:39,260
we have painstakingly had to hardwire

1087
00:44:45,370 --> 00:44:42,500
everything in because just you know

1088
00:44:48,310 --> 00:44:45,380
trying to get a Wi-Fi signal in you know

1089
00:44:52,270 --> 00:44:48,320
to travel around through everything it's

1090
00:44:54,220 --> 00:44:52,280
it's not very good so you know I I'm

1091
00:44:58,300 --> 00:44:54,230
hardwired in here because I mean we do

1092
00:44:59,410 --> 00:44:58,310
have Wi-Fi in here but you know for some

1093
00:45:01,390 --> 00:44:59,420
reason sometimes it just

1094
00:45:03,940 --> 00:45:01,400
up and down all the time so you know

1095
00:45:06,549 --> 00:45:03,950
we've had the hardwire all of our

1096
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:06,559
equipment which is even worse than just

1097
00:45:10,990 --> 00:45:09,170
in Italy the wireless signal to do it

1098
00:45:12,670 --> 00:45:11,000
you know from from a stand web but it's

1099
00:45:14,319 --> 00:45:12,680
much more stable because we want to be

1100
00:45:16,450 --> 00:45:14,329
able to make sure that it's not affected

1101
00:45:18,190 --> 00:45:16,460
because you know all those RF signals

1102
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:18,200
and radio waves and all that kind of

1103
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:21,290
craziness just messes and and you

1104
00:45:25,870 --> 00:45:24,650
there's not I mean and you know TJ can

1105
00:45:29,740 --> 00:45:25,880
attest to this because he's been out

1106
00:45:32,020 --> 00:45:29,750
here you can get maybe a bar of cell

1107
00:45:33,579 --> 00:45:32,030
signal if the wind is blowing it's weird

1108
00:45:34,990 --> 00:45:33,589
but like if the wind is blowing a

1109
00:45:36,700 --> 00:45:35,000
certain direction you actually can get a

1110
00:45:39,339 --> 00:45:36,710
bar cell service otherwise it's it's a

1111
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:39,349
dead zone it's just there's no cell

1112
00:45:43,569 --> 00:45:42,290
phone repeaters anywhere near and so you

1113
00:45:45,789 --> 00:45:43,579
know that's why we have to use radios

1114
00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:45,799
and everything like that because you

1115
00:45:49,809 --> 00:45:48,079
just can't not you know there's no

1116
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:49,819
there's no connectivity there and that

1117
00:45:54,789 --> 00:45:52,160
and that's that really is the strange

1118
00:45:57,609 --> 00:45:54,799
thing because you're right I mean you

1119
00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:57,619
just had it up in the air and you know

1120
00:46:03,579 --> 00:46:01,760
that drone speaking to the drone and you

1121
00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:03,589
know took a scope of all you know the

1122
00:46:06,970 --> 00:46:05,359
field and everything like that and then

1123
00:46:11,020 --> 00:46:06,980
of course we get over in your homestead

1124
00:46:12,789 --> 00:46:11,030
to the stupid thing won't connect and

1125
00:46:15,460 --> 00:46:12,799
it's such a transient thing that's the

1126
00:46:17,380 --> 00:46:15,470
frustrating thing about whatever it is

1127
00:46:19,809 --> 00:46:17,390
that's here is it it's transient it's

1128
00:46:21,789 --> 00:46:19,819
one thing if it's always there and you

1129
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:21,799
can go research what's causing it to be

1130
00:46:27,099 --> 00:46:24,650
there but it'll be there one day or one

1131
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:27,109
minute or one hour or whatever and then

1132
00:46:30,819 --> 00:46:29,210
it's gone and then it shows up again and

1133
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:30,829
you can go back to study it and you get

1134
00:46:37,450 --> 00:46:34,490
absolutely nothing and you know you even

1135
00:46:40,420 --> 00:46:37,460
saw it in the episode with the RF meter

1136
00:46:42,490 --> 00:46:40,430
in in what we termed the sinkhole you

1137
00:46:46,030 --> 00:46:42,500
know it's kind of a ground cave that

1138
00:46:47,410 --> 00:46:46,040
goes down sometimes it's there and

1139
00:46:48,789 --> 00:46:47,420
sometimes it's not and that's really it

1140
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:48,799
been the most frustrating thing to the

1141
00:46:52,420 --> 00:46:50,720
scientists is kind of like well I'd

1142
00:46:54,250 --> 00:46:52,430
really like to study it but I don't know

1143
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:54,260
when the hell it's gonna be here right

1144
00:46:58,990 --> 00:46:56,210
and that feeds into the idea of it being

1145
00:47:01,299 --> 00:46:59,000
an intelligent something like something

1146
00:47:02,620 --> 00:47:01,309
that is kind of reactionary and and you

1147
00:47:05,230 --> 00:47:02,630
know reacting to what you are doing

1148
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:05,240
which goes against all you know you know

1149
00:47:09,549 --> 00:47:08,000
common kind of logic but it's it's true

1150
00:47:11,260 --> 00:47:09,559
I mean I've witnessed it you witnessed

1151
00:47:12,970 --> 00:47:11,270
it we're starting to see a bit of a bit

1152
00:47:14,620 --> 00:47:12,980
more of it on the show

1153
00:47:16,690 --> 00:47:14,630
and we're gonna we're going to I mean as

1154
00:47:18,609 --> 00:47:16,700
we get down into that cave and there's

1155
00:47:20,050 --> 00:47:18,619
other things I mean you know I'm not

1156
00:47:21,609 --> 00:47:20,060
giving anything away that you can't see

1157
00:47:23,740 --> 00:47:21,619
in a title of an episode if you look it

1158
00:47:26,410 --> 00:47:23,750
up you know it's not it's not like we're

1159
00:47:27,820 --> 00:47:26,420
giving any secrets but so it is

1160
00:47:30,430 --> 00:47:27,830
something transient is something that

1161
00:47:33,609 --> 00:47:30,440
you know we studying is happening and so

1162
00:47:36,430 --> 00:47:33,619
here so you know more tech issues at

1163
00:47:40,060 --> 00:47:36,440
homes it to like you know Bryant you

1164
00:47:42,010 --> 00:47:40,070
were just saying it's not necessarily a

1165
00:47:44,050 --> 00:47:42,020
thing at homestead to because it can

1166
00:47:45,940 --> 00:47:44,060
follow you or a can shift and go into

1167
00:47:49,330 --> 00:47:45,950
any other area the of the ranch at any

1168
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:49,340
point but then you know we decide to

1169
00:47:55,150 --> 00:47:52,490
well the chair is like hey let's use

1170
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:55,160
math if math is the way to go let's do

1171
00:47:59,380 --> 00:47:57,650
some facts and figures and you know like

1172
00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:59,390
do some math and figure out what the

1173
00:48:03,580 --> 00:48:00,800
hell to do and so he breaks out a coffee

1174
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:03,590
can and then we got a lot of [\h__\h]

1175
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:04,880
there's a lot of [\h__\h] online about this

1176
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:06,290
guy using the coffee came from the 70s

1177
00:48:10,180 --> 00:48:08,210
and yet you got thirty four thousand

1178
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:10,190
dollar drone coffee care from the 70s

1179
00:48:16,330 --> 00:48:13,040
how does this work together so you

1180
00:48:18,970 --> 00:48:16,340
couldn't even find a coffee can stop

1181
00:48:20,650 --> 00:48:18,980
hold on that answers all of Twitter's

1182
00:48:24,190 --> 00:48:20,660
questions he couldn't even find a

1183
00:48:25,870 --> 00:48:24,200
friggin coffee can okay it was I don't

1184
00:48:28,030 --> 00:48:25,880
know where I think it ended up being

1185
00:48:29,980 --> 00:48:28,040
dried beans that they ended up buying a

1186
00:48:31,690 --> 00:48:29,990
can of and dumped those because they

1187
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:31,700
literally he wanted a metal can and you

1188
00:48:38,890 --> 00:48:33,650
couldn't he's you know couldn't find a

1189
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:38,900
coffee can so I mean you know Jason no

1190
00:48:42,310 --> 00:48:40,609
it's not useless at all and and I think

1191
00:48:44,260 --> 00:48:42,320
like Jason marine you know I was just

1192
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:44,270
about to ask you guys like see these

1193
00:48:47,770 --> 00:48:45,530
kind of things that are happening and

1194
00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:47,780
yes it looks analog sort of speak you

1195
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:49,520
know this is you know they using the

1196
00:48:53,530 --> 00:48:50,810
coffee can as opposed to this friggin

1197
00:48:55,150 --> 00:48:53,540
drone but what precedence has been set

1198
00:48:58,330 --> 00:48:55,160
like has anyone seen any this kind of

1199
00:48:59,830 --> 00:48:58,340
stuff happening that they've other than

1200
00:49:02,140 --> 00:48:59,840
some crazy YouTube videos where you see

1201
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:02,150
randoms like can somebody speak to this

1202
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:03,290
can somebody please tell me because I

1203
00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:04,970
don't know and love for the history of

1204
00:49:10,330 --> 00:49:07,250
the studies this kind of suggests this

1205
00:49:12,340 --> 00:49:10,340
happens or hasn't happened please I

1206
00:49:14,170 --> 00:49:12,350
don't have a lot of knowledge of it all

1207
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:14,180
I could think about was the fact that a

1208
00:49:20,290 --> 00:49:17,090
lot of people you know either use like a

1209
00:49:22,090 --> 00:49:20,300
Pringle cane or a glass to create a

1210
00:49:24,580 --> 00:49:22,100
radio with your cell phone and sort of

1211
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:24,590
amplify a single signal in a certain way

1212
00:49:27,849 --> 00:49:26,240
so

1213
00:49:29,470 --> 00:49:27,859
that's all I thought about was like okay

1214
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:29,480
I guess that makes sense why that would

1215
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:31,040
like closed off certain areas and you

1216
00:49:37,540 --> 00:49:33,290
could then sort of narrow your focus

1217
00:49:39,940 --> 00:49:37,550
down Jason please like certainly on this

1218
00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:39,950
well this is this is the advantage of

1219
00:49:44,859 --> 00:49:42,800
having scientists work on you know the

1220
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:44,869
research right because you're trying

1221
00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:48,290
things and yes it's a TV show but at the

1222
00:49:53,020 --> 00:49:50,510
same time you're doing something and

1223
00:49:55,450 --> 00:49:53,030
then you have an idea you work with what

1224
00:49:57,310 --> 00:49:55,460
you have and you try to try to rig

1225
00:49:59,370 --> 00:49:57,320
something together to see if you can get

1226
00:50:02,650 --> 00:49:59,380
you know the results you're looking for

1227
00:50:04,420 --> 00:50:02,660
yeah it's nice when you've got all the

1228
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:04,430
gear that you could possibly want to

1229
00:50:11,589 --> 00:50:07,839
conduct an experiment a perfect way or a

1230
00:50:13,210 --> 00:50:11,599
you know a laboratory way but when

1231
00:50:16,329 --> 00:50:13,220
you're out in the field and things are

1232
00:50:17,980 --> 00:50:16,339
happening it helps to have people who

1233
00:50:19,870 --> 00:50:17,990
are familiar with what they're looking

1234
00:50:22,450 --> 00:50:19,880
for and the ways in which you can go

1235
00:50:24,430 --> 00:50:22,460
about possibly you know getting some

1236
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:24,440
data to work with and so that was kind

1237
00:50:29,770 --> 00:50:27,440
of fun seeing Travis work that way with

1238
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:29,780
the team and just kind of make something

1239
00:50:37,540 --> 00:50:36,190
think and and then to rush out and get

1240
00:50:39,970 --> 00:50:37,550
the really expensive equipment that

1241
00:50:41,890 --> 00:50:39,980
would do somewhere well and we're I mean

1242
00:50:44,740 --> 00:50:41,900
we're located in the UN to base in

1243
00:50:49,690 --> 00:50:44,750
England so if you want to wait five days

1244
00:50:52,359 --> 00:50:49,700
for Amazon it's not like you can run

1245
00:50:54,099 --> 00:50:52,369
down to a local even electronics store

1246
00:51:01,410 --> 00:50:54,109
and it's not like Amazon's gonna have

1247
00:51:05,530 --> 00:51:03,520
Jemez but there's some good bowling and

1248
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:05,540
some burgers and fries break down the

1249
00:51:10,540 --> 00:51:08,089
street that's the closest thing but no

1250
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:10,550
honestly the best thing in and I'm glad

1251
00:51:16,750 --> 00:51:12,530
you touched on that is you know Travis

1252
00:51:18,339 --> 00:51:16,760
is I mean I teased him because he used

1253
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:18,349
to have an old show they told me about

1254
00:51:24,910 --> 00:51:20,690
called Rocket City rednecks where the

1255
00:51:26,890 --> 00:51:24,920
end of his other PhDs from Alabama would

1256
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:26,900
do all these crazy experiments with you

1257
00:51:30,849 --> 00:51:28,690
know whatever they could find

1258
00:51:33,250 --> 00:51:30,859
type of a thing I said now you know this

1259
00:51:34,540 --> 00:51:33,260
is not rocket city rednecks right you

1260
00:51:36,099 --> 00:51:34,550
know what he was breaking that stuff out

1261
00:51:40,170 --> 00:51:36,109
but that's the beauty of it too is

1262
00:51:42,420 --> 00:51:40,180
because he can take you know basic items

1263
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:42,430
and you know has made a career out of

1264
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:45,040
being able to do that type of thing and

1265
00:51:49,650 --> 00:51:47,920
and utilize what he has available in

1266
00:51:51,950 --> 00:51:49,660
order to you know to test things out it

1267
00:51:54,059 --> 00:51:51,960
was blue him and we saw it throughout

1268
00:51:56,460 --> 00:51:54,069
you know the time that he was here with

1269
00:51:59,549 --> 00:51:56,470
us there's a lot maybe said for

1270
00:52:01,859 --> 00:51:59,559
macgyvering that [\h__\h] yeah MacGyver that

1271
00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:01,869
right and I've called Eric many times of

1272
00:52:06,780 --> 00:52:03,760
like you know your MacGyver with a

1273
00:52:09,329 --> 00:52:06,790
Raspberry Pi Arduino and a soldering

1274
00:52:10,620 --> 00:52:09,339
iron that's pretty much what you are and

1275
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:10,630
for those don't know that's just like

1276
00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:12,450
nerd speak and you want to Google that

1277
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:15,760
but yeah so he said yeah macgyvering

1278
00:52:19,710 --> 00:52:18,130
[\h__\h] is the way to go especially with

1279
00:52:21,870 --> 00:52:19,720
these guys out here never seen yeah

1280
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:21,880
we're gonna gloss over some stuff anyway

1281
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:25,030
moving on to the alright when I kept

1282
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:27,609
calling the node I put down was balloon

1283
00:52:31,890 --> 00:52:29,650
fail so we come back you know we're in

1284
00:52:32,910 --> 00:52:31,900
the d-block of the show now so it's you

1285
00:52:34,980 --> 00:52:32,920
know we're almost at the end of the show

1286
00:52:36,990 --> 00:52:34,990
well I mean halfway through it right and

1287
00:52:40,650 --> 00:52:37,000
so we're like alright we put this first

1288
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:40,660
balloon up and then it was fail so what

1289
00:52:44,490 --> 00:52:42,210
do you guys think you like what worthy

1290
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:44,500
what could have caused this why is this

1291
00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:46,240
happening with you what was done wrong

1292
00:52:50,220 --> 00:52:48,910
and then Brian please give us a you know

1293
00:52:55,950 --> 00:52:50,230
you can give us inside of what happened

1294
00:53:00,630 --> 00:52:55,960
on the ground anyone oh sorry sorry so

1295
00:53:02,849 --> 00:53:00,640
uh you alert so this is actually

1296
00:53:05,370 --> 00:53:02,859
interesting for me because I have gotten

1297
00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:05,380
to play with weather balloons in a UFO

1298
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:10,030
investigative research and I just kept

1299
00:53:14,700 --> 00:53:11,650
waiting I don't know you guys can

1300
00:53:18,410 --> 00:53:14,710
probably tell me did any of them blow up

1301
00:53:23,490 --> 00:53:18,420
on you before that is not on camera

1302
00:53:26,250 --> 00:53:23,500
maybe maybe but so I wasn't there you

1303
00:53:28,410 --> 00:53:26,260
know during that part caleb was there I

1304
00:53:30,839 --> 00:53:28,420
was off with air doing some other stuff

1305
00:53:34,770 --> 00:53:30,849
that I'm sure will show up later on yes

1306
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:34,780
enough but no no one blue one out okay

1307
00:53:40,890 --> 00:53:37,450
in Italy so there was no major injuries

1308
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:40,900
as far as the blowout and you know DJ

1309
00:53:45,870 --> 00:53:42,880
the first fail that was the freaking

1310
00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:45,880
wind picked up blew that sucker you know

1311
00:53:49,859 --> 00:53:47,470
you have them tethered and you have it

1312
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:49,869
tied with you know different lines and

1313
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:51,730
everything like that and that one the

1314
00:53:54,030 --> 00:53:53,650
cool thing was is when it took off in

1315
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:54,040
the air

1316
00:53:58,050 --> 00:53:56,110
and flattened out I can only imagine

1317
00:53:59,370 --> 00:53:58,060
what the locals around we're thinking

1318
00:54:01,590 --> 00:53:59,380
what's happening because it looked

1319
00:54:04,890 --> 00:54:01,600
really amazing you know the whole

1320
00:54:06,990 --> 00:54:04,900
weather foe phenomenon type of thing you

1321
00:54:08,550 --> 00:54:07,000
know I've seen you know footage of what

1322
00:54:10,830 --> 00:54:08,560
it looked like when that being flattened

1323
00:54:12,210 --> 00:54:10,840
in the wind and and took off but you

1324
00:54:14,820 --> 00:54:12,220
know the first one that was just

1325
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:14,830
strictly that was his weather that's an

1326
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:16,570
I think that's another thing that like

1327
00:54:21,060 --> 00:54:18,160
we said last week with things not

1328
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:21,070
translating well on TV I mean on TV you

1329
00:54:25,140 --> 00:54:23,650
see this giant balloon and they're

1330
00:54:27,300 --> 00:54:25,150
talking oh the winds picking up

1331
00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:27,310
oh yeah the wind's really picking up but

1332
00:54:31,500 --> 00:54:29,470
you know you really don't see that on TV

1333
00:54:33,210 --> 00:54:31,510
you're not there to experience the wind

1334
00:54:36,570 --> 00:54:33,220
and see how that's affecting the balloon

1335
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:36,580
so you know that's definitely yeah I

1336
00:54:39,690 --> 00:54:37,810
definitely knew that's what was

1337
00:54:42,990 --> 00:54:39,700
happening was the wind but you really

1338
00:54:44,490 --> 00:54:43,000
couldn't see that on TV and I think

1339
00:54:47,610 --> 00:54:44,500
that's that's what I was trying to

1340
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:47,620
attest to is these are finicky I people

1341
00:54:50,940 --> 00:54:48,880
think Oh weather balloons have been

1342
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:50,950
around forever but there was very

1343
00:54:55,950 --> 00:54:54,010
fragile the one I saw blew up in to

1344
00:54:59,070 --> 00:54:55,960
researchers face left white powder all

1345
00:55:01,650 --> 00:54:59,080
over their faces and they were safe so I

1346
00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:01,660
was laughing very hard but you know

1347
00:55:05,610 --> 00:55:03,730
they're very hard to deal with and

1348
00:55:07,890 --> 00:55:05,620
they're fragile and the wind like you

1349
00:55:11,070 --> 00:55:07,900
said can just easily destroy a whole

1350
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:11,080
experiment so not surprising to me at

1351
00:55:17,250 --> 00:55:13,210
all I know how they work I think it's

1352
00:55:20,130 --> 00:55:17,260
when we get more into the the 10,000

1353
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:20,140
plus feet range where where it starts

1354
00:55:24,330 --> 00:55:21,970
getting an interesting and you can

1355
00:55:28,650 --> 00:55:24,340
expand more on on that sort of end of

1356
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:28,660
the experiments right so you know what

1357
00:55:36,330 --> 00:55:30,490
let's go to blue number two all right so

1358
00:55:41,390 --> 00:55:36,340
one yeah the wind number two so what's

1359
00:55:43,950 --> 00:55:41,400
uh okay it just so happens that the the

1360
00:55:48,090 --> 00:55:43,960
calculations that they figured out are

1361
00:55:50,250 --> 00:55:48,100
the exact altitude that the balloon kind

1362
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:50,260
of disappears well since you're stopped

1363
00:55:55,530 --> 00:55:53,170
working and it just [\h__\h] just okay I

1364
00:55:59,040 --> 00:55:55,540
don't know where it happened so tell us

1365
00:56:00,780 --> 00:55:59,050
about the alright I asked him this

1366
00:56:03,450 --> 00:56:00,790
before and I can't we didn't talk about

1367
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:03,460
it in too much detail but um where's

1368
00:56:07,250 --> 00:56:06,010
balloon number two that is a good

1369
00:56:09,950 --> 00:56:07,260
question

1370
00:56:12,380 --> 00:56:09,960
if anyone watching this knows and as the

1371
00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:12,390
equipment that was on it we would love

1372
00:56:17,900 --> 00:56:14,640
you can have all the equipment we just

1373
00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:17,910
want the data off of it honestly though

1374
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:20,400
it was you know and they they tried to

1375
00:56:25,340 --> 00:56:22,890
illustrate that a little bit in the

1376
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:25,350
episode but I mean it had the GPS

1377
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:28,050
tracker at a homing beacon had all that

1378
00:56:33,170 --> 00:56:29,730
different kind of stuff along with you

1379
00:56:38,380 --> 00:56:33,180
know various other items of equipment

1380
00:56:42,170 --> 00:56:38,390
and it hit where it stops tracking on

1381
00:56:43,820 --> 00:56:42,180
you know everything that we had and it

1382
00:56:46,490 --> 00:56:43,830
happened to be at about ten thousand

1383
00:56:48,849 --> 00:56:46,500
feet which is you know roughly about

1384
00:56:52,250 --> 00:56:48,859
five thousand feet above the ranch which

1385
00:56:55,340 --> 00:56:52,260
Travis's yarn and and measuring stick

1386
00:56:57,830 --> 00:56:55,350
apparently you know pointed out as where

1387
00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:57,840
he wanted to search so that's strange

1388
00:57:00,920 --> 00:56:59,520
but yeah we to this day we don't know

1389
00:57:01,550 --> 00:57:00,930
what happened to the boy it's never

1390
00:57:03,740 --> 00:57:01,560
shown up

1391
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:03,750
it's see I think something good with

1392
00:57:10,130 --> 00:57:07,530
this with this episode we saw with the

1393
00:57:12,830 --> 00:57:10,140
balloon and the disappearance of the

1394
00:57:15,470 --> 00:57:12,840
balloon as well as with the the drone

1395
00:57:18,590 --> 00:57:15,480
malfunction it was great to see that

1396
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:18,600
with both of these fails that aren't

1397
00:57:24,050 --> 00:57:21,290
really fails because they're amazing

1398
00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:24,060
we're done by outside people by these

1399
00:57:28,430 --> 00:57:27,119
third-party sources who are essentially

1400
00:57:30,349 --> 00:57:28,440
experts in what they do right they're

1401
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:30,359
very familiar with what they were doing

1402
00:57:34,490 --> 00:57:32,850
at the time the drone operator that was

1403
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:34,500
his drone it's not something he went and

1404
00:57:37,370 --> 00:57:35,850
bought at Best Buy and he just opened

1405
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:37,380
the box and didn't know how to use it

1406
00:57:42,410 --> 00:57:39,570
like that's his drone it knows how to

1407
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:42,420
use I used it many times he's a pro that

1408
00:57:47,780 --> 00:57:44,880
guy was me dirt from he was pissed

1409
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:47,790
because you've never had an issue he

1410
00:57:51,230 --> 00:57:49,770
told us you know what I you know he's

1411
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:51,240
worked he works for the fire department

1412
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:53,250
in Los Angeles and stuff he's like I've

1413
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:54,960
thrown that I've flown that thing

1414
00:58:00,349 --> 00:57:58,410
through buildings that are full of rebar

1415
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:00,359
and concrete and everything and I've

1416
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:03,330
never had a disconnection with you know

1417
00:58:07,609 --> 00:58:05,490
what the thing he's like this thing is

1418
00:58:08,750 --> 00:58:07,619
state-of-the-art thirty five thousand

1419
00:58:13,220 --> 00:58:08,760
dollars I don't know how many times he

1420
00:58:15,650 --> 00:58:13,230
said that to me but you know it was

1421
00:58:18,170 --> 00:58:15,660
frustrating to him and you know he was

1422
00:58:20,650 --> 00:58:18,180
not he was not thrilled by the fact that

1423
00:58:23,300 --> 00:58:20,660
he was brought all the way out

1424
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:23,310
basically we were able to utilize them

1425
00:58:27,770 --> 00:58:25,440
for maybe 30 minutes and then we sat and

1426
00:58:29,690 --> 00:58:27,780
inked around for hours and hours to try

1427
00:58:34,010 --> 00:58:29,700
and get the thing to connect and never

1428
00:58:35,450 --> 00:58:34,020
could understand a thing yeah of course

1429
00:58:37,940 --> 00:58:35,460
it's not like he's in on anything this

1430
00:58:39,020 --> 00:58:37,950
is just night the way it was but the

1431
00:58:40,310 --> 00:58:39,030
same thing same thing with the balloon

1432
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:40,320
right I mean this is somebody who's very

1433
00:58:43,370 --> 00:58:42,000
familiar with weather balloons they've

1434
00:58:45,050 --> 00:58:43,380
covered that on the show his guide

1435
00:58:47,420 --> 00:58:45,060
launched several balloons he's very

1436
00:58:50,810 --> 00:58:47,430
familiar with the gear on the balloon

1437
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:50,820
said it never failed before now it

1438
00:58:53,870 --> 00:58:52,650
failed right so there was no I think

1439
00:58:56,060 --> 00:58:53,880
that was really valuable to have in the

1440
00:58:57,770 --> 00:58:56,070
investigation absolutely and the it

1441
00:59:00,200 --> 00:58:57,780
blown them you know in all kinds of

1442
00:59:03,410 --> 00:59:00,210
weather and you know up to 10,000 feet

1443
00:59:07,130 --> 00:59:03,420
you know and you know much higher than

1444
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:07,140
where they were and I can't remember and

1445
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:15,380
Travis said did he agree oh yeah if I

1446
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:17,490
remember correctly you know again I

1447
00:59:22,700 --> 00:59:20,850
wasn't there for the you know firsthand

1448
00:59:25,130 --> 00:59:22,710
stuff I've only seen footage of it and

1449
00:59:27,950 --> 00:59:25,140
you can go on you but he was dumbfounded

1450
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:27,960
he was done yeah like so the hundred

1451
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:29,520
thousand foot thing so there was a time

1452
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:31,410
few years back where there was a number

1453
00:59:35,420 --> 00:59:32,970
of YouTube videos that were coming out

1454
00:59:37,130 --> 00:59:35,430
where people were flying those balloons

1455
00:59:39,530 --> 00:59:37,140
two hundred thousand feet and then with

1456
00:59:41,900 --> 00:59:39,540
the GPS and a geo tracking they would

1457
00:59:44,510 --> 00:59:41,910
get the curvature of the earth on camera

1458
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:44,520
which is super cool and then the balloon

1459
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:46,050
would pop and it would come back down to

1460
00:59:48,530 --> 00:59:46,530
the ground

1461
00:59:49,940 --> 00:59:48,540
you know parachute would come up and

1462
00:59:52,610 --> 00:59:49,950
then they would go and try to find where

1463
00:59:54,050 --> 00:59:52,620
these things were so yes those things

1464
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:54,060
have been active to a hundred thousand

1465
00:59:59,420 --> 00:59:56,730
feet multiple times and what I feel is

1466
01:00:01,490 --> 00:59:59,430
really cool about this you got Derek

1467
01:00:02,930 --> 01:00:01,500
from Hot Shots right so that's the

1468
01:00:04,970 --> 01:00:02,940
company's name that you know came out

1469
01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:04,980
and did the drone stuff and then with

1470
01:00:11,740 --> 01:00:08,160
with this with Travis's friend you know

1471
01:00:14,300 --> 01:00:11,750
he's from what University of Alabama

1472
01:00:16,250 --> 01:00:14,310
yeah Huntsville Ala right Matt Turner

1473
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:16,260
dr. Matt Turner so these are people like

1474
01:00:22,490 --> 01:00:19,410
in case you're wondering Google is a

1475
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:22,500
tool you can use to Google them and then

1476
01:00:25,370 --> 01:00:23,970
reach out to them on social media

1477
01:00:27,380 --> 01:00:25,380
there's nothing that's stopping you from

1478
01:00:28,790 --> 01:00:27,390
asking them questions directly they're

1479
01:00:31,070 --> 01:00:28,800
not hiding anything there's no

1480
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:31,080
conspiracy here these are guys with a

1481
01:00:34,370 --> 01:00:32,930
business and obviously it's like hey if

1482
01:00:35,990 --> 01:00:34,380
we're going on the

1483
01:00:38,510 --> 01:00:36,000
so we want people to understand our

1484
01:00:41,180 --> 01:00:38,520
business is XYZ you know whatever it is

1485
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:41,190
so there I'm sure that if you ask these

1486
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:42,450
people questions they're going to give

1487
01:00:46,250 --> 01:00:43,890
you straight-up answers just like

1488
01:00:47,420 --> 01:00:46,260
Brian's doing right now which which I

1489
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:47,430
really love I feel like you know you

1490
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:50,130
gave a direct line to these guys and so

1491
01:00:54,890 --> 01:00:51,930
take advantage of this kind of what I'm

1492
01:00:57,650 --> 01:00:54,900
saying and you know I don't I know we're

1493
01:01:00,770 --> 01:00:57,660
going on and on here and I just the last

1494
01:01:02,180 --> 01:01:00,780
thing we should probably touch on since

1495
01:01:04,970 --> 01:01:02,190
we can't buy that balloon and you know

1496
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:04,980
if you have seen this balloon please

1497
01:01:13,250 --> 01:01:10,170
contact us but the you know the next the

1498
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:13,260
teaser the next episode is have been my

1499
01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:14,930
notes in my head are like bones

1500
01:01:20,390 --> 01:01:18,480
exclamation point yeah you know so we're

1501
01:01:22,010 --> 01:01:20,400
moving on to the the T's in the next

1502
01:01:23,780 --> 01:01:22,020
episode the last block of the show and

1503
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:23,790
they're digging with it they're looking

1504
01:01:29,450 --> 01:01:26,850
with the camera so what's going on in

1505
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:29,460
this in the walls like why is this

1506
01:01:34,130 --> 01:01:30,720
happening the walls and why did they

1507
01:01:36,370 --> 01:01:34,140
cover they cover it up and so to speak I

1508
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:36,380
mean what year was that that particular

1509
01:01:41,630 --> 01:01:40,410
house built I'm curious of mm-hmm bridge

1510
01:01:45,980 --> 01:01:41,640
you know that I don't know if the top my

1511
01:01:50,570 --> 01:01:45,990
head I wouldn't say it was in the 30s

1512
01:01:52,310 --> 01:01:50,580
action okay thank you did you stir it

1513
01:01:53,630 --> 01:01:52,320
mean it's the newest structure there

1514
01:01:55,970 --> 01:01:53,640
obviously except for the command center

1515
01:01:57,590 --> 01:01:55,980
and what's not and I don't I don't want

1516
01:01:59,240 --> 01:01:57,600
to say that this is because clearly

1517
01:02:00,410 --> 01:01:59,250
there's there's something within the

1518
01:02:02,090 --> 01:02:00,420
walls that seems like it's a little

1519
01:02:04,820 --> 01:02:02,100
weird obviously we don't know what it is

1520
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:04,830
right now but the house I grew up is

1521
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:08,130
built in 1910 and we had the same thing

1522
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:10,290
happen where we found a totally sealed

1523
01:02:15,860 --> 01:02:13,170
off room that was not on the blueprints

1524
01:02:18,380 --> 01:02:15,870
that had no entrance no exit it was just

1525
01:02:24,380 --> 01:02:18,390
walled off eventually became my

1526
01:02:26,570 --> 01:02:24,390
childhood bedroom yeah but so anyways

1527
01:02:28,910 --> 01:02:26,580
I'm just curious because when I wash it

1528
01:02:30,980 --> 01:02:28,920
that's immediately what I thought of not

1529
01:02:33,860 --> 01:02:30,990
in the basement it was in the upstairs

1530
01:02:36,910 --> 01:02:33,870
level but I'm wondering if that was more

1531
01:02:40,370 --> 01:02:36,920
common in that time period in the early

1532
01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:40,380
part of the century where that would

1533
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:42,240
just happen and they kind of realized oh

1534
01:02:46,580 --> 01:02:44,370
we we're just gonna you know build up

1535
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:46,590
this space or whether it's something

1536
01:02:49,460 --> 01:02:47,610
entire

1537
01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:49,470
more mysterious and somebody killed

1538
01:02:53,780 --> 01:02:51,510
somebody and burn the body and then

1539
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:53,790
blocked off the wall but that's such a

1540
01:03:01,790 --> 01:02:57,210
small unless that's somewhere there's

1541
01:03:03,050 --> 01:03:01,800
more bones or something so I want to

1542
01:03:04,460 --> 01:03:03,060
know is there is this a common thing

1543
01:03:05,690 --> 01:03:04,470
like is this happened in the past you

1544
01:03:07,130 --> 01:03:05,700
know at these times I was like you're

1545
01:03:08,270 --> 01:03:07,140
saying Jason you were gonna say

1546
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:08,280
something I'm sorry I cut you off

1547
01:03:14,890 --> 01:03:11,250
go ahead oh I was gonna say you know

1548
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:14,900
when I was watching it I literally said

1549
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:17,730
this is horror movie [\h__\h] right before

1550
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:21,450
Travis said the same thing yes I think a

1551
01:03:24,830 --> 01:03:23,010
lot of people were thinking that I mean

1552
01:03:26,150 --> 01:03:24,840
in my head I'm just thinking like you

1553
01:03:28,490 --> 01:03:26,160
know put the lotion in the basket or you

1554
01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:28,500
get the hose exactly whenever I walk in

1555
01:03:32,630 --> 01:03:29,910
that basement that's exactly what I

1556
01:03:34,300 --> 01:03:32,640
think right yep I mean how are they

1557
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:34,310
living there like how are they able to

1558
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:37,170
live in there you like it not be freaked

1559
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:42,210
out all the time right oh I don't know I

1560
01:03:44,780 --> 01:03:43,770
haven't really gotten to know them very

1561
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:44,790
much of the show we haven't really

1562
01:03:50,420 --> 01:03:48,090
talked too much about them yeah and they

1563
01:03:52,250 --> 01:03:50,430
and they haven't been here all that long

1564
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:52,260
we had an elderly couple here previously

1565
01:03:58,340 --> 01:03:53,970
that I won't get into all that different

1566
01:04:00,410 --> 01:03:58,350
kind of sure like yeah it's it's

1567
01:04:02,570 --> 01:04:00,420
definitely one of those places that was

1568
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:02,580
that it just seems strange because it's

1569
01:04:08,420 --> 01:04:05,250
just you know as you saw it's a big

1570
01:04:10,430 --> 01:04:08,430
concrete box it doesn't seem like it has

1571
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:10,440
any purpose and so I guess that's what

1572
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:12,720
kind of you know keep the interest and

1573
01:04:15,530 --> 01:04:14,730
made Tom want to go punch a hole in it

1574
01:04:17,330 --> 01:04:15,540
to see what it was

1575
01:04:20,810 --> 01:04:17,340
first I must have put your hole in it

1576
01:04:22,340 --> 01:04:20,820
and this is the same the same house

1577
01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:22,350
where like this when the Sherman's

1578
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:23,760
arrived that there were locks on

1579
01:04:28,820 --> 01:04:26,640
everything which I mean that that that

1580
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:28,830
was part of a huge part of their story

1581
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:30,960
when they expressed it back in the day

1582
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:33,930
and which is super mysterious and and

1583
01:04:39,110 --> 01:04:35,850
having a lot of what is alleged as

1584
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:39,120
poltergeist activity in terms of the

1585
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:41,250
groceries coming out of the cabinets

1586
01:04:44,660 --> 01:04:42,690
after they put them in and things like

1587
01:04:47,690 --> 01:04:44,670
that so this is really curious I'm

1588
01:04:50,300 --> 01:04:47,700
digging this storyline because I'm very

1589
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:50,310
curious at what's happening and what's

1590
01:04:55,670 --> 01:04:52,050
causing that kind of stuff even if it's

1591
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:55,680
something normal or what was happening

1592
01:05:01,550 --> 01:04:57,450
or whether it was malicious human

1593
01:05:04,850 --> 01:05:01,560
actions so I'm up for the tea

1594
01:05:06,110 --> 01:05:04,860
nice so what would you guys want to see

1595
01:05:10,010 --> 01:05:06,120
happen next like you want to spend more

1596
01:05:13,820 --> 01:05:10,020
time in the in the dungeon so to speak

1597
01:05:16,970 --> 01:05:13,830
or I mean is it something worth getting

1598
01:05:18,950 --> 01:05:16,980
into more in-depth do you think I thank

1599
01:05:20,630 --> 01:05:18,960
you how does it sort of answer you got

1600
01:05:23,750 --> 01:05:20,640
to do some testing on whatever is in

1601
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:23,760
there to figure out what it is nice well

1602
01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:26,850
yeah right I love the stoic face it's

1603
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:30,510
perfect so the net you know again I want

1604
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:31,650
to get some questions because we get a

1605
01:05:35,780 --> 01:05:33,210
lot of questions from the magical

1606
01:05:37,460 --> 01:05:35,790
internet this week but also you know

1607
01:05:39,230 --> 01:05:37,470
there is this thing that's going to

1608
01:05:43,090 --> 01:05:39,240
happen next week's episode and it's a

1609
01:05:45,830 --> 01:05:43,100
freaking rocket they decide so the the

1610
01:05:48,140 --> 01:05:45,840
what was that the redneck what was the

1611
01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:48,150
show I'm sorry yeah Rocksteady rednecks

1612
01:05:52,550 --> 01:05:50,400
I've never watched it but he told me all

1613
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:52,560
about it yes so you know he living

1614
01:05:57,500 --> 01:05:54,570
living up to the name he built the

1615
01:05:59,840 --> 01:05:57,510
rocket so what do you guys think that

1616
01:06:01,580 --> 01:05:59,850
the rocket idea is for what's behind the

1617
01:06:03,140 --> 01:06:01,590
idea of the rocket I wanna know if you

1618
01:06:04,940 --> 01:06:03,150
guys have an idea and then I feel like

1619
01:06:08,330 --> 01:06:04,950
people on online are gonna chime in on

1620
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:08,340
that well we know what the idea is but

1621
01:06:14,990 --> 01:06:11,370
it's a good idea or not I have my doubts

1622
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:15,000
but you know it's it's along the same

1623
01:06:20,540 --> 01:06:17,250
lines of the weather balloon test but to

1624
01:06:23,180 --> 01:06:20,550
you know go to his magic magical peak

1625
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:23,190
where he thinks this this signal is

1626
01:06:31,730 --> 01:06:28,290
coming from to get the test equipment

1627
01:06:35,750 --> 01:06:31,740
more directly targeted to this area with

1628
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:35,760
a rocket and I don't know I I think

1629
01:06:38,870 --> 01:06:37,410
there are better ways to do it but I

1630
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:38,880
want to see the rocket happen before I

1631
01:06:44,540 --> 01:06:41,610
do course go see a rocket he's a rocket

1632
01:06:46,970 --> 01:06:44,550
scientist exactly yeah so he's using the

1633
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:46,980
skills absolutely the rocket science

1634
01:06:53,810 --> 01:06:49,530
he's gonna deliver the payload one way

1635
01:06:55,490 --> 01:06:53,820
or another I want to know though and I

1636
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:55,500
hope people online you know anyone who

1637
01:07:00,170 --> 01:06:57,690
listens to this or watches this I would

1638
01:07:02,390 --> 01:07:00,180
love to know thoughts on it are there

1639
01:07:05,930 --> 01:07:02,400
anything atmospherically speaking that

1640
01:07:07,010 --> 01:07:05,940
happened between 5,000 and 6,000 feet or

1641
01:07:09,380 --> 01:07:07,020
is there something that everyone was

1642
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:09,390
kind of overlooking that or just be and

1643
01:07:12,020 --> 01:07:10,530
not to say that they don't know what

1644
01:07:14,090 --> 01:07:12,030
they're talking about but maybe it's

1645
01:07:14,870 --> 01:07:14,100
just not in their specialty be somebody

1646
01:07:16,430 --> 01:07:14,880
has some real ins

1647
01:07:18,829 --> 01:07:16,440
like I know Ben you know we talked about

1648
01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:18,839
Ben McGee last week you know he had some

1649
01:07:22,789 --> 01:07:20,880
insight into some things that I think a

1650
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:22,799
lot of people just kind of glossed over

1651
01:07:26,029 --> 01:07:24,450
so I'd love to know if people have any

1652
01:07:27,829 --> 01:07:26,039
ideas like is there something that

1653
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:27,839
happens in that atmospheric range that

1654
01:07:31,249 --> 01:07:29,910
we're just not aware of please you know

1655
01:07:33,789 --> 01:07:31,259
send that send that info and we love

1656
01:07:36,559 --> 01:07:33,799
love to know about it and talk about it

1657
01:07:38,599 --> 01:07:36,569
but so now I gotta get to this stuff

1658
01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:38,609
because right there's some really there

1659
01:07:43,490 --> 01:07:40,319
are some questions here that I think

1660
01:07:45,289 --> 01:07:43,500
you're gonna enjoy answering and and you

1661
01:07:47,930 --> 01:07:45,299
guys Maureen Jason please chime in man

1662
01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:47,940
look you know that's we can totally you

1663
01:07:51,620 --> 01:07:49,200
know poke Bryant with sticks like hey

1664
01:07:55,970 --> 01:07:51,630
man tell us about this tell us about

1665
01:07:57,620 --> 01:07:55,980
guns and on that note so I you know will

1666
01:08:00,039 --> 01:07:57,630
you get so this is a question that

1667
01:08:01,940 --> 01:08:00,049
received on Twitter directly someone

1668
01:08:04,759 --> 01:08:01,950
says it's me directly and they were

1669
01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:04,769
saying we'll draggy get a better firearm

1670
01:08:12,890 --> 01:08:08,160
for the team's protection like a Benelli

1671
01:08:18,249 --> 01:08:12,900
super 90 shotgun an ak-47 or a Franchi

1672
01:08:24,590 --> 01:08:18,259
spas-12 I don't know what that means

1673
01:08:26,570 --> 01:08:24,600
thank you you know those are all nice

1674
01:08:28,189 --> 01:08:26,580
guns you know the guy knows his weapons

1675
01:08:31,579 --> 01:08:28,199
there's no getting around that

1676
01:08:34,849 --> 01:08:31,589
I you know I'm I'm really happy with

1677
01:08:37,249 --> 01:08:34,859
what I have you know I I pray to god I

1678
01:08:39,530 --> 01:08:37,259
don't ever have to use them because you

1679
01:08:42,590 --> 01:08:39,540
know that's the last thing I want to

1680
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:42,600
have to do but you know they're kind of

1681
01:08:47,809 --> 01:08:44,880
one of those things that you know for

1682
01:08:50,090 --> 01:08:47,819
the protection of of whoever's here and

1683
01:08:51,620 --> 01:08:50,100
myself and whatnot you know it's it's

1684
01:08:53,629 --> 01:08:51,630
just one of those things but yeah you

1685
01:08:55,129 --> 01:08:53,639
know hey if he wants to hook me up with

1686
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:55,139
those guns I'd be more than happy to use

1687
01:09:00,349 --> 01:08:57,330
those in service to protection of the

1688
01:09:02,780 --> 01:09:00,359
people on the ranch nice nice and that

1689
01:09:06,499 --> 01:09:02,790
was from Dan from Twitter actually and

1690
01:09:09,260 --> 01:09:06,509
then I got so Maureen Jason and I kind

1691
01:09:12,260 --> 01:09:09,270
of you know people send stuff all during

1692
01:09:15,289 --> 01:09:12,270
the week and he kind of I created all

1693
01:09:19,519 --> 01:09:15,299
put together and we had what what else

1694
01:09:21,169 --> 01:09:19,529
the someone asked I'm sorry Ryan asks

1695
01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:21,179
curious about Brian's personal

1696
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:24,239
experience with trespassers or instances

1697
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:26,850
in and around the property how often do

1698
01:09:30,260 --> 01:09:27,930
people breach secure

1699
01:09:34,010 --> 01:09:30,270
and what protocols might they have when

1700
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:34,020
dealing with this yeah that's a tough

1701
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:38,610
one because you know fortunately you

1702
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:40,170
know a lot of people are very respectful

1703
01:09:44,990 --> 01:09:42,330
and they're curious and their curiosity

1704
01:09:46,670 --> 01:09:45,000
brings them to you know near the front

1705
01:09:48,500 --> 01:09:46,680
gate where we have big signs that says

1706
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:48,510
don't pass here you'll be trespassing

1707
01:09:52,790 --> 01:09:51,120
they'll stop maybe take a picture turn

1708
01:09:54,890 --> 01:09:52,800
around and you know and leave

1709
01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:54,900
unfortunately there are people that feel

1710
01:10:01,310 --> 01:09:58,410
like it's their right because they're an

1711
01:10:03,410 --> 01:10:01,320
enthusiast of something that they can

1712
01:10:05,540 --> 01:10:03,420
you know break laws and trespass because

1713
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:05,550
they want to see what's going on or have

1714
01:10:09,710 --> 01:10:07,170
an experience or whatever it is and so

1715
01:10:11,900 --> 01:10:09,720
yeah there's been times where you know

1716
01:10:16,430 --> 01:10:11,910
we've certainly had to you know chase

1717
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:16,440
people off it's never really gotten too

1718
01:10:21,410 --> 01:10:19,650
terribly escalated you know most the

1719
01:10:23,300 --> 01:10:21,420
time if they see themselves you know if

1720
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:23,310
see someone coming they say beat beat

1721
01:10:30,380 --> 01:10:27,810
and run away and the good thing as far

1722
01:10:33,470 --> 01:10:30,390
as the protocols go is you guys have

1723
01:10:37,310 --> 01:10:33,480
seen a little bit of Caleb Caleb bent

1724
01:10:39,170 --> 01:10:37,320
it's kind of really you know he's he's

1725
01:10:41,420 --> 01:10:39,180
really my right-hand guy he's a really

1726
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:41,430
smart guy but he's also happens to be a

1727
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:43,410
deputy with one of the local sheriff

1728
01:10:48,500 --> 01:10:46,770
municipalities and so you know it's nice

1729
01:10:50,810 --> 01:10:48,510
to have that resource where he's in

1730
01:10:53,570 --> 01:10:50,820
contact with law enforcement and you

1731
01:10:56,660 --> 01:10:53,580
know he legally you know has the ability

1732
01:10:59,810 --> 01:10:56,670
you know to take action and and so you

1733
01:11:01,550 --> 01:10:59,820
know we we really try to be nice to

1734
01:11:03,590 --> 01:11:01,560
people as long as they're nice to us and

1735
01:11:05,990 --> 01:11:03,600
and express the fact that you know what

1736
01:11:07,850 --> 01:11:06,000
you're not supposed to be here we've got

1737
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:07,860
a lot of important things going on and

1738
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:09,840
you don't realize the impact you're

1739
01:11:14,570 --> 01:11:11,810
having on the scientific research and

1740
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:14,580
you know it's dangerous here and we

1741
01:11:17,860 --> 01:11:16,290
don't know what's going on and so you

1742
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:17,870
know for the most part people are

1743
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:21,330
respectful but you know as I mentioned

1744
01:11:26,150 --> 01:11:24,930
earlier as more notoriety has come to it

1745
01:11:28,370 --> 01:11:26,160
with the TV show there's a lot more

1746
01:11:30,020 --> 01:11:28,380
people that are curious and upon quite

1747
01:11:32,690 --> 01:11:30,030
as respectful and I I just hope that

1748
01:11:34,730 --> 01:11:32,700
they will realize that it's not just a

1749
01:11:36,650 --> 01:11:34,740
matter of us wanting to hide things

1750
01:11:38,750 --> 01:11:36,660
because it's not doing that it's a

1751
01:11:41,060 --> 01:11:38,760
matter of it's messing with the science

1752
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:41,070
it's first and foremost because we have

1753
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:41,730
all kinds of

1754
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:43,440
and when there's a human element added

1755
01:11:48,590 --> 01:11:46,410
you have to go vet that out as well as

1756
01:11:53,330 --> 01:11:48,600
you know you don't want people getting

1757
01:11:56,660 --> 01:11:53,340
injured or hurt here the lack don't it I

1758
01:11:58,600 --> 01:11:56,670
mean you guys what you know I'm sorry

1759
01:12:01,610 --> 01:11:58,610
Jason and Maureen when I say you guys

1760
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:01,620
and I keep referring to you both of you

1761
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:04,410
when it comes to you know UFO specialty

1762
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:06,000
like expertise because I don't have that

1763
01:12:10,970 --> 01:12:08,730
so what would you say you know is to

1764
01:12:12,590 --> 01:12:10,980
draw for people to kind of do this I

1765
01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:12,600
mean are they thinking that they're

1766
01:12:17,330 --> 01:12:15,450
gonna like solve the case or what is the

1767
01:12:18,620 --> 01:12:17,340
draw for people to kind of you know go

1768
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:18,630
on private property and say hey I

1769
01:12:24,170 --> 01:12:22,530
deserve to be here too I'm a fan so I

1770
01:12:25,670 --> 01:12:24,180
have to apologize it sounds like there's

1771
01:12:30,290 --> 01:12:25,680
a wolf behind me because the neighbor's

1772
01:12:32,150 --> 01:12:30,300
dog is like how I heard it oh you're

1773
01:12:35,750 --> 01:12:32,160
covering that's on the ranch that's on

1774
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:35,760
the right Mike

1775
01:12:42,500 --> 01:12:39,210
so anyways before there's any conspiracy

1776
01:12:45,350 --> 01:12:42,510
theory coming out of the internet so

1777
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:45,360
yeah I think we've all been really drawn

1778
01:12:51,860 --> 01:12:48,690
to the ranch ever since George Knapp but

1779
01:12:53,690 --> 01:12:51,870
kind of released his book and we got a

1780
01:12:57,110 --> 01:12:53,700
hint of this and it was like wow there's

1781
01:13:00,350 --> 01:12:57,120
this one place that all this phenomenon

1782
01:13:02,420 --> 01:13:00,360
is happening and so yeah we've always

1783
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:02,430
wanted to go to the ranch because it's

1784
01:13:06,260 --> 01:13:03,930
something that's intrigued us that we've

1785
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:06,270
studied that you want to see for

1786
01:13:10,580 --> 01:13:08,970
yourself you know what is causing it and

1787
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:10,590
look into it and research so that's

1788
01:13:15,860 --> 01:13:13,770
basically I think what sends everyone I

1789
01:13:20,180 --> 01:13:15,870
mean I I'm not the kind of person that

1790
01:13:22,430 --> 01:13:20,190
would actually go and try to trespass on

1791
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:22,440
private property like that but a lot of

1792
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:24,570
people are if they go you know it's like

1793
01:13:30,050 --> 01:13:27,930
the people that are really no offense

1794
01:13:31,910 --> 01:13:30,060
people who do this but the people who

1795
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:31,920
are really stupid and try to trespass on

1796
01:13:36,950 --> 01:13:34,290
area 51 that's a little difference a

1797
01:13:39,050 --> 01:13:36,960
military base however you know they're

1798
01:13:40,729 --> 01:13:39,060
drawn to it and they know the danger but

1799
01:13:42,710 --> 01:13:40,739
they want to go anyways because they

1800
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:42,720
want to say they've done it and they've

1801
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:44,880
been there so I think in terms of UFO

1802
01:13:53,090 --> 01:13:49,050
research yeah it's just the curiosity is

1803
01:13:54,819 --> 01:13:53,100
there so people have been trying to get

1804
01:13:57,849 --> 01:13:54,829
on the ranch for ever since you know

1805
01:13:59,199 --> 01:13:57,859
before when Bigelow basically has been

1806
01:14:02,469 --> 01:13:59,209
running the property that's when I think

1807
01:14:03,909 --> 01:14:02,479
a lot of it started happening but it's

1808
01:14:08,020 --> 01:14:03,919
not surprising and now like you said

1809
01:14:10,119 --> 01:14:08,030
it's it's even bigger now so Jason dive

1810
01:14:11,619 --> 01:14:10,129
into the psyche of you know people who

1811
01:14:13,719 --> 01:14:11,629
are interested for me like tell me what

1812
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:13,729
you think I mean this is it's it's human

1813
01:14:18,549 --> 01:14:16,010
nature it's curiosity you know people

1814
01:14:21,849 --> 01:14:18,559
people are curious and certainly people

1815
01:14:25,029 --> 01:14:21,859
who are drawn to the unknown to to

1816
01:14:28,359 --> 01:14:25,039
mysterious phenomenon mister mysterious

1817
01:14:31,810 --> 01:14:28,369
phenomena they you know they can go to

1818
01:14:34,119 --> 01:14:31,820
places where you know they've read or

1819
01:14:36,549 --> 01:14:34,129
heard from other people that it happens

1820
01:14:38,109 --> 01:14:36,559
with some regularity or it you know when

1821
01:14:40,540 --> 01:14:38,119
they have a physical place they can go

1822
01:14:41,319 --> 01:14:40,550
to to maybe get a glimpse of something

1823
01:14:43,779 --> 01:14:41,329
strange

1824
01:14:46,689 --> 01:14:43,789
you know that's there's an appeal there

1825
01:14:48,549 --> 01:14:46,699
whereas you know if you want to see a

1826
01:14:51,369 --> 01:14:48,559
UFO what do you do I always tell people

1827
01:14:52,659 --> 01:14:51,379
look up but three people looking for

1828
01:14:55,149 --> 01:14:52,669
more than that they want to go to a

1829
01:14:57,310 --> 01:14:55,159
place a site of high strangeness you

1830
01:14:59,020 --> 01:14:57,320
know I see the appeal I really do but

1831
01:15:01,750 --> 01:14:59,030
it's the same same sort of thing that

1832
01:15:02,919 --> 01:15:01,760
draws people to hotels that are

1833
01:15:05,139 --> 01:15:02,929
allegedly haunted

1834
01:15:07,060 --> 01:15:05,149
you know people looking for that that

1835
01:15:09,399 --> 01:15:07,070
connection to the unknown to be able to

1836
01:15:11,379 --> 01:15:09,409
experience that for themselves you know

1837
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:11,389
that's that these places give that to

1838
01:15:15,699 --> 01:15:13,010
them and places like Maureen mentioned

1839
01:15:17,139 --> 01:15:15,709
area 51 and in skinwalker ranch these

1840
01:15:19,359 --> 01:15:17,149
places that are off-limits

1841
01:15:21,459 --> 01:15:19,369
you know for some that's even more more

1842
01:15:23,290 --> 01:15:21,469
thrilling or going to be able to go and

1843
01:15:25,569 --> 01:15:23,300
maybe get a glimpse of somewhere they're

1844
01:15:28,119 --> 01:15:25,579
not allowed to be you always want what

1845
01:15:30,310 --> 01:15:28,129
you can't have right all right I mean

1846
01:15:33,669 --> 01:15:30,320
for the record so people understand area

1847
01:15:36,099 --> 01:15:33,679
51 is an active military base right you

1848
01:15:39,099 --> 01:15:36,109
guys get that no one's getting in area

1849
01:15:40,719 --> 01:15:39,109
51 I know we could keep going for a

1850
01:15:42,060 --> 01:15:40,729
while with a lot of these questions but

1851
01:15:45,609 --> 01:15:42,070
I was a couple I really wanted to read

1852
01:15:47,829 --> 01:15:45,619
that came from email and one of them is

1853
01:15:49,629 --> 01:15:47,839
from someone named natty who says I have

1854
01:15:52,089 --> 01:15:49,639
one question and my eleven-year-old

1855
01:15:53,379 --> 01:15:52,099
daughter has another question and I

1856
01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:53,389
really want to read this because I love

1857
01:15:57,129 --> 01:15:55,760
the fact that an 11 year old is watching

1858
01:15:58,209 --> 01:15:57,139
this an 11 year old her 11 year old

1859
01:16:00,129 --> 01:15:58,219
daughter is watching this I think that's

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01:16:03,969 --> 01:16:00,139
great that's all please keep keep

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01:16:07,419 --> 01:16:03,979
watching so the question she has is you

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01:16:08,770 --> 01:16:07,429
all have mentioned the ranch behaves in

1863
01:16:11,500 --> 01:16:08,780
a certain way can you allow

1864
01:16:12,340 --> 01:16:11,510
Reitan exactly what that means and then

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01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:12,350
I'll going to tell you the other

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01:16:15,790 --> 01:16:13,760
question so you can lead into it if

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01:16:17,140 --> 01:16:15,800
you'd like and she says her 11 year old

1868
01:16:19,710 --> 01:16:17,150
daughter's question is what is the

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01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:19,720
biggest danger at the ranch humans

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01:16:25,150 --> 01:16:22,010
trespassers wild animals or the

1871
01:16:29,830 --> 01:16:25,160
paranormal Brian please know they're

1872
01:16:31,410 --> 01:16:29,840
both good questions so as far as the

1873
01:16:36,130 --> 01:16:31,420
ranch behaving I know that that was

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01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:36,140
mentioned early on I think really what

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01:16:42,490 --> 01:16:39,290
that comes down to is it's almost like a

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01:16:44,620 --> 01:16:42,500
curiosity level with whatever the

1877
01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:44,630
phenomenon is here I mean we'll use that

1878
01:16:54,100 --> 01:16:51,040
term because we don't know what it is it

1879
01:16:58,770 --> 01:16:54,110
interacts differently with different

1880
01:17:02,290 --> 01:16:58,780
people and it's almost like it seems

1881
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:02,300
that when someone knew or somebody that

1882
01:17:08,730 --> 01:17:04,640
comes in with and other stuff really

1883
01:17:12,700 --> 01:17:08,740
crazy but like a cavalier or you know

1884
01:17:15,940 --> 01:17:12,710
the wrong attitude if you will I it

1885
01:17:17,020 --> 01:17:15,950
seems to react differently to those

1886
01:17:19,060 --> 01:17:17,030
people and those are the kind of the

1887
01:17:22,210 --> 01:17:19,070
people that are messed with a little bit

1888
01:17:26,170 --> 01:17:22,220
more that have you know shown injury or

1889
01:17:28,450 --> 01:17:26,180
illness or whatever it is and when

1890
01:17:30,180 --> 01:17:28,460
there's new people it's almost like hey

1891
01:17:33,730 --> 01:17:30,190
there's something new here to play with

1892
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:33,740
so the activity bumps up seems to bump

1893
01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:35,090
up again sometimes it doesn't always

1894
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:36,800
happen I mean it took forever

1895
01:17:42,130 --> 01:17:40,250
I four-year I mean for a good stretch

1896
01:17:43,570 --> 01:17:42,140
before I ever had anything sort of

1897
01:17:44,950 --> 01:17:43,580
experience that I couldn't just chalk up

1898
01:17:46,690 --> 01:17:44,960
to his own I was kind of a little

1899
01:17:48,910 --> 01:17:46,700
different but I can you know I haven't I

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01:17:51,250 --> 01:17:48,920
have an explanation for that it took a

1901
01:17:54,190 --> 01:17:51,260
long time whereas other people have come

1902
01:17:57,430 --> 01:17:54,200
you know for a one-time visit and ended

1903
01:17:59,020 --> 01:17:57,440
up in you know having all kinds of weird

1904
01:18:00,430 --> 01:17:59,030
things happen so I could attest to that

1905
01:18:02,140 --> 01:18:00,440
because every time I was out there I

1906
01:18:03,940 --> 01:18:02,150
would come back to New York or back to

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01:18:06,460 --> 01:18:03,950
East Coast and I had something going on

1908
01:18:07,630 --> 01:18:06,470
that I think the ranch kept up playing

1909
01:18:11,170 --> 01:18:07,640
games with me and I know that sounds

1910
01:18:12,730 --> 01:18:11,180
weird to say but I I mean I doctors take

1911
01:18:16,570 --> 01:18:12,740
a look at okay I can't explain that so

1912
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:16,580
good luck with that right great so yeah

1913
01:18:20,170 --> 01:18:18,770
it's strange it's weird even hearing

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01:18:22,060 --> 01:18:20,180
that come out of my mouth to the place

1915
01:18:22,630 --> 01:18:22,070
you know it's a place but whatever it is

1916
01:18:25,150 --> 01:18:22,640
it's going on

1917
01:18:26,770 --> 01:18:25,160
there's definitely different people have

1918
01:18:28,390 --> 01:18:26,780
different reactions and it almost seems

1919
01:18:29,860 --> 01:18:28,400
like it does have a personality in fact

1920
01:18:32,650 --> 01:18:29,870
it almost has like a split personality

1921
01:18:37,690 --> 01:18:32,660
some days it's the most wonderful place

1922
01:18:40,180 --> 01:18:37,700
and I feel amazing like it's the

1923
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:40,190
greatest feeling I kits hard to explain

1924
01:18:44,260 --> 01:18:41,090
how much I love it

1925
01:18:46,180 --> 01:18:44,270
and there's other days where all the

1926
01:18:48,610 --> 01:18:46,190
hair on my body will stand on end and I

1927
01:18:51,690 --> 01:18:48,620
just want to get away so it's almost as

1928
01:18:54,220 --> 01:18:51,700
if it's you know I don't know if it's

1929
01:18:55,900 --> 01:18:54,230
you know warring factions whatever you

1930
01:18:57,460 --> 01:18:55,910
want to call it it's just some it does

1931
01:18:58,920 --> 01:18:57,470
definitely have a personality and it

1932
01:19:01,990 --> 01:18:58,930
reacts differently to different people

1933
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:02,000
only that and then the second question I

1934
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:04,370
think was what's the biggest threat or

1935
01:19:13,180 --> 01:19:10,970
the biggest danger yes um gosh she says

1936
01:19:15,820 --> 01:19:13,190
what's the biggest danger on the ranch

1937
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:15,830
humans trespassers wild animals or the

1938
01:19:23,260 --> 01:19:20,810
paranormal um can I just say yes yes

1939
01:19:26,530 --> 01:19:23,270
because you know it's a great system it

1940
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:26,540
depends on the human it depends on what

1941
01:19:29,650 --> 01:19:27,770
animals would come across and we have

1942
01:19:31,300 --> 01:19:29,660
massive mountain lions and rattlesnakes

1943
01:19:33,850 --> 01:19:31,310
and stuff like that people wonder why I

1944
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:33,860
carry a shotgun it's not necessarily for

1945
01:19:39,100 --> 01:19:35,570
people but there's stuff here that will

1946
01:19:42,130 --> 01:19:39,110
eat you and you know and then obviously

1947
01:19:43,690 --> 01:19:42,140
be unknown you know things that like

1948
01:19:45,070 --> 01:19:43,700
have happened to Tom and other people

1949
01:19:48,010 --> 01:19:45,080
that have been associated with the ranch

1950
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:48,020
so yeah it's a mean to pinpoint the most

1951
01:19:52,690 --> 01:19:50,810
danger I guess it depends on the day and

1952
01:19:56,230 --> 01:19:52,700
and what's out there in front of you so

1953
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:56,240
that's a good question I mean you know

1954
01:19:58,510 --> 01:19:57,410
I'm sure there's a lot of other

1955
01:20:00,640 --> 01:19:58,520
questions that people want to have

1956
01:20:02,290 --> 01:20:00,650
answers to and I mean I would love to

1957
01:20:03,850 --> 01:20:02,300
you know talk to you all night and I'm

1958
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:03,860
sure we all would mean we could just sit

1959
01:20:07,420 --> 01:20:05,330
here for hours again and just keep

1960
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:07,430
asking you questions but I feel like you

1961
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:09,770
know we should let you go and kind of we

1962
01:20:12,820 --> 01:20:11,210
can chop up any answer any other

1963
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:12,830
questions that come you know we can

1964
01:20:15,730 --> 01:20:14,330
definitely get them and hopefully you

1965
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:15,740
know please if would you like to come

1966
01:20:19,870 --> 01:20:18,170
back on with us some other time yeah if

1967
01:20:21,490 --> 01:20:19,880
you're not tired of me yet you know you

1968
01:20:23,790 --> 01:20:21,500
guys are great you've been it's it's

1969
01:20:26,260 --> 01:20:23,800
been nice to be able to because I guess

1970
01:20:29,260 --> 01:20:26,270
that's the best thing about this is

1971
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:29,270
being able to you know explain a little

1972
01:20:34,930 --> 01:20:32,810
bit because what is edited in a one-hour

1973
01:20:36,609 --> 01:20:34,940
you know whatever what do they have like

1974
01:20:41,879 --> 01:20:36,619
40 minutes of TV and that

1975
01:20:44,919 --> 01:20:41,889
time you know 51:46 typically yeah yeah

1976
01:20:47,049 --> 01:20:44,929
I'll leave that to you but it's nice to

1977
01:20:48,850 --> 01:20:47,059
be able to give a little bit insight you

1978
01:20:50,949 --> 01:20:48,860
know not it's a defending there but you

1979
01:20:53,350 --> 01:20:50,959
know I'm I know people are curious and I

1980
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:53,360
would rather you know be able to at

1981
01:20:56,739 --> 01:20:55,010
least explain things as opposed to just

1982
01:20:58,600 --> 01:20:56,749
have a whole bunch of speculation that's

1983
01:21:00,520 --> 01:20:58,610
you know bounces back and forth so yeah

1984
01:21:01,659 --> 01:21:00,530
if you if you have me back yeah I'd be

1985
01:21:05,290 --> 01:21:01,669
happy to you guys are great

1986
01:21:07,060 --> 01:21:05,300
I appreciate the opportunity it's great

1987
01:21:08,379 --> 01:21:07,070
I mean you had thank you for the talk

1988
01:21:10,299 --> 01:21:08,389
Brent this is awesome I mean seriously

1989
01:21:12,879 --> 01:21:10,309
we appreciate it and I know you guys

1990
01:21:14,859 --> 01:21:12,889
Jason Allen Maureen feel the same way

1991
01:21:16,839 --> 01:21:14,869
like well no I can't say that I can

1992
01:21:18,729 --> 01:21:16,849
speak for you guys now absolutely you

1993
01:21:21,100 --> 01:21:18,739
feel the same way it's always great

1994
01:21:23,799 --> 01:21:21,110
getting that other perspective because I

1995
01:21:26,049 --> 01:21:23,809
mean Jason I had both had experience on

1996
01:21:28,629 --> 01:21:26,059
on the other end where where we've had

1997
01:21:30,729 --> 01:21:28,639
to explain 45 edited minutes of TV as

1998
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:30,739
well and you and it's always good to

1999
01:21:36,699 --> 01:21:33,050
hear from the people of yeah you're

2000
01:21:40,299 --> 01:21:36,709
getting a very edited clip of many weeks

2001
01:21:42,310 --> 01:21:40,309
and years of research so yeah it's

2002
01:21:45,489 --> 01:21:42,320
fascinating to hear your point of view

2003
01:21:48,729 --> 01:21:45,499
so thank you for being willing to talk

2004
01:21:50,799 --> 01:21:48,739
to us oh I'm happy to like I said TJ's

2005
01:21:53,799 --> 01:21:50,809
you know I consider him a friend you

2006
01:21:57,279 --> 01:21:53,809
know he's he's a big reason why the TV

2007
01:21:59,409 --> 01:21:57,289
show even happened I mean he was he was

2008
01:22:02,169 --> 01:21:59,419
the thorns you know he was the burr

2009
01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:02,179
under the saddle if you will they kept

2010
01:22:08,229 --> 01:22:05,209
going and you know it turned out and you

2011
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:08,239
know I yeah so I'm happy and you guys

2012
01:22:11,350 --> 01:22:10,610
are great and you know I'm happy to talk

2013
01:22:14,619 --> 01:22:11,360
to you guys anything

2014
01:22:17,290 --> 01:22:14,629
thank you Sam reduce again very cool

2015
01:22:19,330 --> 01:22:17,300
so I mean think again I'm glad you were

2016
01:22:21,399 --> 01:22:19,340
able to you know spend the time with us

2017
01:22:23,199 --> 01:22:21,409
and so if people have other questions

2018
01:22:24,399 --> 01:22:23,209
you know you can there's two ways to

2019
01:22:26,350 --> 01:22:24,409
reach a sense of right now and this

2020
01:22:29,500 --> 01:22:26,360
jason has some other ones he hasn't told

2021
01:22:30,399 --> 01:22:29,510
me about yeah you can email at Jason you

2022
01:22:33,699 --> 01:22:30,409
know what why don't you give the info

2023
01:22:36,459 --> 01:22:33,709
about where people can send in from it -

2024
01:22:39,250 --> 01:22:36,469
yeah sure so the easiest is is email so

2025
01:22:42,100 --> 01:22:39,260
contact at rogue planet TV can always

2026
01:22:44,020 --> 01:22:42,110
email us there any questions about the

2027
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:44,030
most recent episode or just anything in

2028
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:46,010
general about skinwalker ranch or

2029
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:48,050
anything mysterious at all we love

2030
01:22:51,430 --> 01:22:48,770
hearing

2031
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:51,440
about personal stories or just any

2032
01:22:54,730 --> 01:22:53,210
question about anything strange we love

2033
01:22:57,070 --> 01:22:54,740
that so send anything our way it

2034
01:23:00,100 --> 01:22:57,080
contacted Red Planet TV you can always

2035
01:23:02,440 --> 01:23:00,110
hit us up at Twitter too at skinwalker

2036
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:02,450
pod so those are the best places to send

2037
01:23:06,490 --> 01:23:04,370
us questions each week but we're all

2038
01:23:09,250 --> 01:23:06,500
individually on social media too so feel

2039
01:23:11,140 --> 01:23:09,260
free to hit us up on on Facebook or our

2040
01:23:14,110 --> 01:23:11,150
individual Twitter's as well absolutely

2041
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:14,120
and so on next week's episode of the

2042
01:23:18,490 --> 01:23:15,650
CdeBaca debrief we're talking about

2043
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:18,500
episode 4 of the secretive skinwalker

2044
01:23:22,030 --> 01:23:19,850
ranch on in history and all I got to

2045
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:22,040
make sure the plug is in there and the

2046
01:23:25,540 --> 01:23:23,210
title of that show is called high

2047
01:23:27,970 --> 01:23:25,550
strangeness and so next week our guest

2048
01:23:31,180 --> 01:23:27,980
will be none other than Thomas Winterton

2049
01:23:33,310 --> 01:23:31,190
the ranch superintendent so Thomas will

2050
01:23:35,890 --> 01:23:33,320
be here just just like dragon I'm sorry

2051
01:23:37,180 --> 01:23:35,900
just like Bryant again thank you you

2052
01:23:39,460 --> 01:23:37,190
know please if you have any questions or

2053
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:39,470
whatever send them our way and you know

2054
01:23:43,540 --> 01:23:42,050
hopefully Tom be just as open as Brian

2055
01:23:45,970 --> 01:23:43,550
is to answering all this stuff I mean I

2056
01:23:48,310 --> 01:23:45,980
know he will be what I'm just saying but

2057
01:23:50,770 --> 01:23:48,320
yes thank you all for joining us and we

2058
01:23:52,790 --> 01:23:50,780
hope you tune in next week so make sure

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you don't sit

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